Stop spamming Medica I & II/diurnal Aspected Helios

[Ruf]

LOL. You don’t have to tell me how to AST, honey. I think I know a bit more about it than you do.

At that point, you might as well not even have a sect on. You aren’t utilizing it in any way if you’re just using Benefic, Benefic II, or Helios. You go Nocturnal and at least mitigate/prevent damage.

Well not having a sect on prevent me from doing regen if the other ast isn't doing it & it would actually let me use sect later on while once fight is launched you can not switch midway so yea ill agree to this comment for the you'd be better to go without sect imo. & I am not honey

[Ruf]

Bro...what? Double diurnal is greater? That...just no.

From your standing point of view & I am not your bro.

It's not because regens don't stack.
If that was Ast+Whm, maybe that argument would work.
But that means your sitting on both shields and the extra +5% from nocturnal.

Someone will have its Aspected Helios wasted.

I dont need to, I can just do regular helios (none regen)(Cure potency is even higher) & if single target regens arnt on I am plenty busy with that if not then ill just stick to benefic1 &2 until I can/need to do aspected helios & meanwhile theres plenty of other things to do. if everyone dodge & regens are maintained, shield is barely ever required & I can collective unconscious. yes shield from nocturnl is good but not necessary & even with shield if someone doesn't dodge they will face plant. I actually think the phalanx from nocturnl is mp costly as it drop from ppl in 2sec while regen is steady.

[HyoMinPark]

It's not because regens don't stack.
If that was Ast+Whm, maybe that argument would work.
But that means your sitting on both shields and the extra +5% from nocturnal.

Someone will have its Aspected Helios wasted.

Not to mention the 250% shield Nocturnal Aspected Benefic gives, or the 150% shields Nocturnal Aspected Helios give. Those go a long way to prevent overall healing throughout a fight—you mitigate the majority of incoming damage, and you have to heal less as a result. Meaning you can contribute to the party in other meaningful ways, such as contributing to DPS. Sounds like a win-win to me.

Well not having a sect on prevent me from doing regen if the other ast isn't doing it & it would actually let me use sect later on while once fight is launched you can not switch midway so yea ill agree to this comment for the you'd be better to go without sect imo. & I am not honey

You don’t always need HoTs from Aspected Helios ticking. Aspected Benefic, yes, you usually want those on the MT. But the party do not always need HoTs ticking on them. Shields would actually prevent you from having to cast more Helios spells for AOE healing, because you’ll be mitigating incoming damage. More mitigation = less overall healing.

The no sect comment isn’t meant for you to agree with. I’m not talking about starting a fight with no sect on, and then putting one on mid-combat. I’m talking about how Double Diurnal AST is basically the equivalent of 1 Diurnal AST and 1 Sectless AST. Which is bad play.

[MaloraYuki]

Serious post tho.
I always just try and work with my cohealer. It can be frustrating tho when you put like excog up and they regen or heal over it. I mean mistakes happen but doesn’t make it any less frustrating as the other healer. Not all healers are like that tho, I’ve had some really good co-healers that work with me and don’t waste my heals and I do what I can to not waste their heals. Then we can both pump out good damage and keep everyone alive comfortably.
Bad groups happen tho I’ve had co-healers straight up ask me to solo heal because they didn’t want to heal. It’s all group dependent really. I understand the frustration when other healers are constantly over healing or voiding your healing.

[KDSilver]

That's not a matter of point of view.
There are a lot of experienced players around here.

Double Diurnal Ast is NOT good for reasons already explained.
If you're sturbborned thinking it's good because you decided it was, you won't go very far accomplishing things in healing.

[Miste]

Little tip there HyoMinPark, You can cure in diurnal even if regen is applied without applying regen & when the other astro regen drop you can reapply as they dont for w/e reason.

As a main AST....you are very incorrect about everything you've been saying about AST.

Never do double Diurnal or double Nocturnal in 8 man content. 2 AST in the same party should always be opposite Sects so that you get the benefit of regens AND shields.

Double Diurnal is just plain silly. You are losing out on shields for....absolutely nothing....since double Diurnal ASTs can't even stack regens. Even if you can do the fight like this it is so pointless to do it and you do not gain anything...you simply lose out on benefits like shields.

[KDSilver]

Besides, you must not have experienced content that need both regen and shield to talk like that, so I think that it more or less explain how clueless you are about what you say.

TANK BUSTER !
Oopsie, we're both on Diurnal ! Sorry mate, but at least, my regen was stronger than my co-healer !

[Mesarthim]

I'm just going to Echo the thoughts of everyone else here.

Don't double Diurnal Sect. As an AST main that hurts my soul. I already have a bad luck streak with ignorant AST cohealers.

[HyoMinPark]

Serious post tho.
I always just try and work with my cohealer. It can be frustrating tho when you put like excog up and they regen or heal over it. I mean mistakes happen but doesn’t make it any less frustrating as the other healer. Not all healers are like that tho, I’ve had some really good co-healers that work with me and don’t waste my heals and I do what I can to not waste their heals. Then we can both pump out good damage and keep everyone alive comfortably.
Bad groups happen tho I’ve had co-healers straight up ask me to solo heal because they didn’t want to heal. It’s all group dependent really. I understand the frustration when other healers are constantly over healing or voiding your healing.

I am very much the same. I try really hard to not cause my co-healer’s HoTs to overheal (because I usually roll shield healers in 8-man/24-man content), I am very careful about cards when I am paired with another AST, and I work as much as I can with my other co-healer. Sure there are some mess ups when they Cure III and I hit Indom at the same time, but generally I try to keep an eye on what they’re doing. Sometimes I am a bit more cautious with some healers, other times I’m very aggressive with DPS. Really depends on if I’m new, and their own experience in the content (i.e., if they are new, I am less aggressive; if they have Savage gear, I am more aggressive).

Re: Excog—I understand the pains. :c At least they changed it to where it goes off regardless after the timer expires. Sucks if it’s an overheal though...

[KDSilver]

Re: Excog—I understand the pains. :c At least they changed it to where it goes off regardless after the timer expires. Sucks if it’s an overheal though...

That's why when playing a healer in this game, it's good to know what the other are capable of and have a general idea of their toolkit.
I wouldn't be surprise to see someone yelling at his co-healer "HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHY NOT HEALING THE TANK"

"But Excog..."

"I'm solo healing duh"
"There are regens already, no need for more..."

x)