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  1. #71
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    You missed the point where I said players can get one shotted & that raise cost mp & then the weakness takes cures & theses cures cost more mp & in the end regen is mp efficient + GOSH HyominPark where the heck do you take that double regen from? I fail to get your point, I didn't speak about medica myself as THAT STACK or even sch , I just said idc about x2 regen 1 is enough but having 2 astro in the same stance doesn't hurt. DROP THE x2 REGEN STACK because you twist things I said I know it doesn't stack & I said idc about the no stack that doesn't make me want nocturnl either.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 05-28-2018 at 12:59 PM.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaloraYuki View Post
    Never seen anyone do anything flawless, wow you must be some kind of God huh?
    You are trying to mock me there? as flawless is an expression & the comment about a good astro do both stance
    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    A good AST can play both sects. Just saying.
    For one I never said I cant do nocturnal its basically the same play minus the regen , & for two I said that if someone ask nicely I might switch but my point is that I think you are ignorant about mechanics that are deep rooted so its pointless to try to share knowledge because, you really have no clue where I am coming from so.Ill just stay there in my own little world lalala~
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    GOSH HyominPark where the heck do you take that double regen from? I fail to get your point, I didn't speak about medica myself as THAT STACK or even sch , I just said idc about x2 regen 1 is enough but having 2 astro in the same stance doesn't hurt. DROP THE x2 REGEN STACK because you twist things I said I know it doesn't stack & I said idc about the no stack that doesn't make me want nocturnl either.
    I got the stacking sects and double regens from your own posts. Do you read what you write?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I'm saying that I cant trust the sub healer to heal so I wont ditch my own regen for them if they do it so be it I can just cure without but if they dont regen I will, Hyo it doesn't matter at all, with a good healer (unless its very situational) you dont need nocturnl.
    “I won’t ditch my own regens for them”; “you don’t need nocturnal” — double stacking regens? Or stacking the same sect (Diurnal) if you’re paired with another AST. Or just going regens with a WHM because “you don’t need nocturnal”.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    NO if you go in diurnal before me, it does not force me to go into nocturnal, that is false & overrated of a comment I FULLY disagree.In other words: I trust my Diurnal more than your Diurnal, you dont get to choose & force me to switch to counterpart.
    “If you go in Diurnal before me, it does not force me to go into nocturnal” — So, what? Then you also go Diurnal? Because that’s what it sounds like to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    DROP THE x2 REGEN STACK because you twist things I said I know it doesn't stack & I said idc about the no stack that doesn't make me want nocturnl either.
    I’m not twisting anything with that last comment—you’re very clearly saying that you won’t go Nocturnal with it, and will stay Diurnal even with another Diurnal AST.



    If you don’t want to be misunderstood, write more clearly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Ill just stay there in my own little world lalala~
    Well, you are good at doing that.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-28-2018 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    you dont get to choose & force me to switch to counterpart.
    That applies for you as well you know.
    You're not even asking the other astrologian if he's willing to change to nocturnal.
    When there are two ast, one choice has to be made, we won't spend an entire day fightning for a sect.
    Choosing one sect at the beginning isn't "forcing" the other, it's just that we have to take one. And if you don't feel confortable, you just ask to take that sect instead.
    That's what a lot of people do when they don't know which sect the other healer want to play.
    By the way, that case also works for Ast/Sch.Having a scholar "forces" ast to play in diurnal. Yet, if you make the choice to stay in nocturnal and spam aspected helios, you'll overwrite shield no matter their value, including a critical spread adlo, which is really bad.

    Choosing a sect isn't like our lives depends on it, you're supposed to be able to play both as an Ast. We all have preference.
    This is only a selfish behavior honestly.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 05-28-2018 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    You are trying to mock me there? as flawless is an expression & the comment about a good astro do both stance

    For one I never said I cant do nocturnal its basically the same play minus the regen , & for two I said that if someone ask nicely I might switch but my point is that I think you are ignorant about mechanics that are deep rooted so its pointless to try to share knowledge because, you really have no clue where I am coming from so.Ill just stay there in my own little world lalala~
    Yes I was mocking you. How long did it take you to figure that out super ego? And lol you are the one who said stacking doesn’t matter so I think you’re the ignorant one there buddy. People don’t see where you are coming from because you have no clue what you are talking about. Maybe stop while you’re ahead?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    That applies for you as well you know.
    You're not even asking the other astrologian if he's willing to change to nocturnal.
    When there are two ast, one choice has to be made, we won't spend an entire day fightning for a sect.
    I believe x2 diurnal is greater, so no it doesn't because I dont want to ask them that, this is where we disagree, if I die & lose my diurnal they still have it, vice versa. I'm done replying, my input & standing point of view got explained already~~~
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I got the stacking sects and double regens from your own posts. Do you read what you write?



    “I won’t ditch my own regens for them”; “you don’t need nocturnal” — double stacking regens? Or stacking the same sect (Diurnal) if you’re paired with another AST. Or just going regens with a WHM because “you don’t need nocturnal”.



    “If you go in Diurnal before me, it does not force me to go into nocturnal” — So, what? Then you also go Diurnal? Because that’s what it sounds like to me.



    If you don’t want to be misunderstood, write more clearly.



    Well, you are good at doing that.
    Little tip there HyoMinPark, You can cure in diurnal even if regen is applied without applying regen & when the other astro regen drop you can reapply as they dont for w/e reason.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Little tip there HyoMinPark, You can cure in diurnal even if regen is applied without applying regen & when the other astro regen drop you can reapply as they dont for w/e reason.
    LOL. You don’t have to tell me how to AST, honey. I think I know a bit more about it than you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I believe x2 diurnal is greater, so no it doesn't because I dont want to ask them that, this is where we disagree, if I die & lose my diurnal they still have it, vice versa. I'm done replying, my input & standing point of view got explained already~~~
    Ah, confirmed. This right here tells me you have no idea how to play AST, much less heal.


    Re: first quote—At that point, you might as well not even have a sect on. You aren’t utilizing it in any way if you’re just using Benefic, Benefic II, or Helios. You go Nocturnal and at least mitigate/prevent damage. Double Diurnal just makes you a worthless healer because you aren’t making use of your entire kit, and you’re overwriting the other healer’s HoT ticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I believe x2 diurnal is greater, so no it doesn't because I dont want to ask them that, this is where we disagree, if I die & lose my diurnal they still have it, vice versa. I'm done replying, my input & standing point of view got explained already~~~
    Bro...what? Double diurnal is greater? That...just no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    I believe x2 diurnal is greater, so no it doesn't because I dont want to ask them that, this is where we disagree, if I die & lose my diurnal they still have it, vice versa. I'm done replying, my inout & standing point of view got explained already~~~
    It's not because regens don't stack.
    If that was Ast+Whm, maybe that argument would work.
    But that means your sitting on both shields and the extra +5% from nocturnal.

    Someone will have its Aspected Helios wasted.
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