Petition - Bring back the Need button in 24 mans

[Policopiu]

This change needs to be reverted ASAP it just gimps new players why call it a catch up patch if its way harder to catchup now

[Ash_]

I wanted Vaan's outfit myself. Oddly surprised it's for SAM which I need the gear for. I grinded the new 24 man for one piece of it to the point I'm bored of it already because of greed rolls.

I am also confused over their creative choices with his outfit; his shirt which is clearly cloth is somehow leather, and his pants which are clearly leather in every other game are now weaver aligned and cloth (and also very poorly modelled)? :| Yes I am one of the 2 people out there that really liked Vaan. Come at me.

[SinisterJoints]

I'd rather you bring a class that matches the gear you're rolling for.



You do not need savage gear to do alliance raids. Very weak argument.

what in the actual hell are you going on about? Did you read the entire post in its context? Clearly you didn't....smh

Some people are arguing here for the sake of arguing lol

if you would rather I bring a low geared Tank over my main job BiS bard then you have a lot bigger problems then this NEED button lol

[Alleo]

If someone is choosing to spend their weekly loot drop on a job that they don't have unlocked, then more power to them. Its a huge waste for them and very few people would actually do that.

Do we know that its a waste for them? Maybe they just wanted the glamour and will be leveling this up. Maybe they dont need any gear and just roll on stuff to save it for later when they can turn it in? Anyway the worse is that someone that truly NEEDS it right now might lose the roll thanks to that. The rolls where the person who wins it has that job not unlocked will probably be the minority but there will be enough people that roll on this for other jobs even if they dont actively play them and thus take them away from those that went into this as the job.

It also doesnt matter if they can only get one item per week. This is still one item that people can lose and seeing how its RNG that decides what the chests drops this might have been the only one of this gear item that drops for the week for the person that really wanted it.

Old raids matter too because people do run them for glamour. Now its even worse for them while those that want it to turn it in or desynth it will also have it worse because they are now missing they items that they could roll need on.

if you would rather I bring a low geared Tank over my main job BiS bard then you have a lot bigger problems then this NEED button lol

If the tank has enough ilvl to go into this raid than he is good enough to play it and if he does not even have enough ilvl to do this than why need it? Because if its that low you seemingly dont play the job enough. And yes if you want a certain drop then earn it with the job that needs it. With the old system, those that went into this as a tank or healer got a reward by being either the only one to roll on it with need or against another one. While if they dont need it others could have still had a chance with the greed roll. Now you can go into this as a DD that has way less stress in this and get the items for those jobs that can carry a whole raid. (I feel bad for all the main healers in this current raid, I would not want to heal that)

[Remedi]

Let's not forget about griefers

[SonKevin]

This is SE's way of making this content last. They don't actually want you to get armor for the alternate class you want. They want you to run it over and over and over again while you desperately try to win that roll for the class you want. It's disgusting.

[Catwho]

Alternate methods of implementing this that would have been better:

- Keep need but lock it to all your 70s only - or at the bare minimum you have to have the class unlocked and a soul stone equipped
- Keep need, but allow someone to pick one other class at the start besides the one they queued as
- Keep greed, but have a warning if you click it and you're not on a class that can equip it so people aren't making dumb mistakes (they do this on a lot of vendor gear so the code already exists!)

[Averax]

I know I'm the minority (At least in the US community) But I actually like it.

Lets me be able to play my main, while have the chance to get gear on ALL other classes.

So no.... Leave it off thank you.

You could do that before. So long as nobody else in the duty actually needed it for their main.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

if you would rather I bring a low geared Tank over my main job BiS bard then you have a lot bigger problems then this NEED button lol

Yes. And you know what? I play Dragoon virtually every week in Savage whereas I don't often get to play tanks in somewhat challenging content unless I pug Savage. So I like to play other jobs outside Savage even if their ilvl is much lower than my main. Considering all my jobs' ilvl is well above i335, it makes no difference.

[Penthea]

what in the actual hell are you going on about? Did you read the entire post in its context? Clearly you didn't....smh

Some people are arguing here for the sake of arguing lol

if you would rather I bring a low geared Tank over my main job BiS bard then you have a lot bigger problems then this NEED button lol

If you expect people to gear up their classes by not playing them, it's you who has the problem. If you want tank gear, then I'd rather you gear up your tank enough so you can queue with it for a 24 man, and then use it to roll on tank gear. It's pretty simple.