Flames for all Bonewicca Sets

[illgot]

Wow, that's really harsh for the owner/creator of the original design who even made it possible for us to have this gear in the first place.

I doubt anyone is saying the original designer is at fault for the lack of effects on the non caster set.

What people are saying is that the lack of effects were a poor design choice for the developers and I agree, having effects only on one set looks like the devs just gave up or stopped caring.

[Sigma-Astra]

I doubt anyone is saying the original designer is at fault for the lack of effects on the non caster set.

What people are saying is that the lack of effects were a poor design choice for the developers and I agree, having effects only on one set looks like the devs just gave up or stopped caring.

They didn't give up or stop caring, they kept (mostly) to the original art of the design for the caster set that won the caster design contest and no where does it say that ALL sets need to be made equal or look perfectly similar to the specific set that was made and whom won the contest. This wasn't the healer contest, you had your chances already for cool effects. So, logically, wait until the next contest for healers comes around and make something you'd like then.

For someone who's a healer or non-caster job to scream "unfair" and then refuse to roll a caster, it's called "entitlement". This shouldn't even be an argument really, it's a personal nitpick that one person has. You either roll the job for the gear so you're able to wear it, or you don't and then just suck it up.

The point of these contests were to design specific gear for the jobs that were wearing it, period. If the other gear was meant to have the flames on it for healers, tanks, melees, and ranged. They would have made the gear contest for all jobs then.

[illgot]

They didn't give up or stop caring, they kept (mostly) to the original art of the design for the caster set that won the caster design contest and no where does it say that ALL sets need to be made equal or look perfectly similar to the specific set that was made and whom won the contest. This wasn't the healer contest, you had your chances already for cool effects. So, logically, wait until the next contest for healers comes around and make something you'd like then.

For someone who's a healer or non-caster job to scream "unfair" and then refuse to roll a caster, it's called "entitlement". This shouldn't even be an argument really, it's a personal nitpick that one person has. You either roll the job for the gear so you're able to wear it, or you don't and then just suck it up.

The point of these contests were to design specific gear for the jobs that were wearing it, period. If the other gear was meant to have the flames on it for healers, tanks, melees, and ranged. They would have made the gear contest for all jobs then.

The fact that it was a player contest to design a caster set doesn't matter. The developers did not create just one set, they created sets for every class but only gave one set effects. That is lazy. And the players in general do not care about the contest, only that the developers did not bother to fully design anything but the caster set.

Future players certainly will not care about the contest, and they most certainly will not understand why one set looks fully designed while the rest look lacking.

The contest is no reason to be lazy and not add effects to all sets.

[Sigma-Astra]

The fact that it was a player contest to design a caster set doesn't matter. The developers did not create just one set, they created sets for every class but only gave one set effects. That is lazy. And the players in general do not care about the contest, only that the developers did not bother to fully design anything but the caster set.

Future players certainly will not care about the contest, and they most certainly will not understand why one set looks fully designed while the rest look lacking.

The contest is no reason to be lazy and not add effects to all sets.

Yea, the contest does matter. It doesn't matter how many times you try to refute it, it does matter. Where was all of this faux outrage over the tank contest gear? The healer contest gear? Are we going to run into these entitlement issues with the melee and ranged contest gear too? They HAVE to create sets referenced on the ORIGINAL DESIGN of the caster gear so the other jobs don't feel completely left out. But, what they don't have to do is make them all the same. That's not what the gear contests are about at all. They're about shining the spotlight on the specific jobs for the gear, not make everyone look and feel the same. Again, where were these complaints over the Lost Allagan Tank gear and why healers didn't have this or casters didn't have that. You can't speak for the other players, you're not their voice, and no one likes it when people make generalized assumptions about how they should feel.

If players didn't care about the contest, then they wouldn't bother to enter and the developers wouldn't bother to hosts the content. So, that point of your's is moot. Furthermore, you're making bold assumptions that future players would even care that the caster set looks different over the others and that they would feel so entitled to whine and nitpick over it as you and the TC are doing now. Stop using the "new/future players" as a reasoning because you're making generalized assumptions that don't hold any water since you can't speak for everyone from all three different regions. Neither can I in that regard, however, I also don't whine because one job has something different that I want. I just go level the job and be done with it.

It's people that feel like they're entitled towards having everything without putting any effort forth is what ruins it for everyone else usually. If you want special effects on your other jobs, draw some entries and hope they win, but don't sit there and complain when you don't get what you want for your job. You should be happy you got anything at all from SE and they could have just implemented the specific job gear only. For example, tank contest (only tanks get new gear), healer contest (healers get new gear), etc.

You're just looking entitled and ungrateful.

[illgot]

You're just looking entitled and ungrateful.

Were there special effects only for the healer and tank gear in their perspective contests?

I'm not being selfish, I'm giving you the perspective of anyone who doesn't care or never heard of these contests.

I only heard about this caster contest after people started complaining and I never heard of the tank or healer one.

[LittleChickenNugget]

Were there special effects only for the healer and tank gear in their perspective contests?

I'm not being selfish, I'm giving you the perspective of anyone who doesn't care or never heard of these contests.

I only heard about this caster contest after people started complaining and I never heard of the tank or healer one.

Simple. They weren't designed to. They didn't design their gear to have special effects.
Please get over yourself already, this is beating a dead horse.

[illgot]

Simple. They weren't designed to. They didn't design their gear to have special effects.
Please get over yourself already, this is beating a dead horse.

So your saying that as much effort went into each of the other job sets in the healer and tank contest, but hey, it's not lazy to do the same for the caster contest because... reasons?

That is lazy design. The majority of players will have never heard of these contests. They will not understand why one job looks great and has effects while the rest don't.

If the previous contests had a consistent design, why is it fine to stop designing the other jobs in this contest when it comes to effects like flames. Why would a sudden drop in quality in any job sets from a dungeon be acceptable.