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    Greed Only would work fine in non-current 24-mans. In current 24-mans, no. Please put back a Need option in 24-mans during their relative patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Greed Only would work fine in non-current 24-mans. In current 24-mans, no. Please put back a Need option in 24-mans during their relative patch.
    I would argue greed only doesn't work in any content. It's already potentially frustrating enough to hope something drops, never mind having to also hope none of the other seven players will roll on it too. It's rng with more rng on top.

    Last tier I nearly didn't get my weekly loot on Rabanastre because the piece I needed didn't drop until monday evening. I think I did the instance eight times that week. I would have raged so hard if I ended up losing that gear to someone who wasn't playing as the role it's for.

    Sure there's no loot lockout for older alliance raids but it doesn't make it less crappy if you run into the situation in which the item refuses to drop for a long time, and when it finally does you lose that healer gear to a dps.

    I got the one piece I needed from Ridorana on my main. I haven't even bothered to unlock it yet on my lala alt because frankly the loot system turns me the hell off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I would argue greed only doesn't work in any content. It's already potentially frustrating enough to hope something drops, never mind having to also hope none of the other seven players will roll on it too. It's rng with more rng on top.

    Last tier I nearly didn't get my weekly loot on Rabanastre because the piece I needed didn't drop until monday evening. I think I did the instance eight times that week. I would have raged so hard if I ended up losing that gear to someone who wasn't playing as the role it's for.

    I got the one piece I needed from Ridorana on my main. I haven't even bothered to unlock it yet on my lala alt because frankly the loot system turns me the hell off.
    It would probably work a lot better in older 24-mans that are not current-tier where people aren’t trying to get current gear for a main or secondary job. You’re talking about Rabanastre last tier; my suggestion was about implementing Greed Only only in non-current 24-mans. Rabanastre was, more or less, the current 24-man until last Tuesday, therefore Need would have been still working at that time if you went off the system I had described.

    As for Ridorana, I’m not even rolling on gear from there. I am running it once for the token, and maybe a few times after to help friends through. But I also don’t need the gear from there, so it’s not a huge loss for me. I still disagree with the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    It would probably work a lot better in older 24-mans
    Working better doesn't mean actually working well though. This greed only ridiculousness needs to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    As for Ridorana, I’m not even rolling on gear from there. I am running it once for the token, and maybe a few times after to help friends through. But I also don’t need the gear from there, so it’s not a huge loss for me. I still disagree with the system.
    Yea I intend to run it only once a week for the token. Not even going to try to get glam gear because I hate the idea that I can only roll greed and I might deprive someone else of gear they legit need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Greed Only would work fine in non-current 24-mans. In current 24-mans, no. Please put back a Need option in 24-mans during their relative patch.
    To be frank I would increase the quantity of dropped items too, to offset the RNG that is stacked against some1, while it's true that only NIN and DRG don't share gear with other jobs, I feel like that the RNG is not on the plòayer side, current raid or not. I mean I've yet to get my argath card and since 4.2 is party roll only (ok true I haven't done rabanastre that many time since 4.2 but that's beside the point)
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