Petition - Bring back the Need button in 24 mans

[Maero]

tbh this comment doesn't make sense. why would someone lock themselves from weekly gear to get themselves a tank gear while they are lv10?
there are more than one way to get gear. most people gear their alts with alliance raids. in the end, though, it doesn't matter. no one rolls for the gear to be greedy. .

Reality check people do roll because they are greedy, lol
Some do it for future glamour, etc...
Many do roll on gear they do not yet have a job for yet or are say level 25 and such. Just grab what you can and do not bother doing the 24 man for the rest of the week is what some do.

[TristanBlane]

Please, change this stupid decision

[Rofel]

Agreed.

The Need option never was a problem. Stop wasting resources fixing what isn't broken.

[Akamadoshi]

It may not be considered directly an 'issue', however, there had been a lot heavy arguments about loots within party/alliance chat. I for instance felt shy to greed things for my other classes, worried the other one might need. Somebody greeding on something somebody else needed, it did become issue what I experienced. It is what stopped me daring to press Greed button myself - it was horrific. And the bullying was uncalled for many times I witness. Once somebody does specify need of a gear, many passes on. I just pass. This has fixed the issue as alliance raid -does- drop heavy alt-gathering items, and really nice for glamours too, in such, it makes sense.

[TaleraRistain]

Somebody greeding on something somebody else needed, it did become issue what I experienced. It is what stopped me daring to press Greed button myself - it was horrific. And the bullying was uncalled for many times I witness.

How? Need supersedes Greed. If someone rolled Need, the game only considers those Need rolls. The Greed rolls don't even come into it. So Greed away. You're just going to be competing with others who do Greed if no one Needs. If someone bullies you, they were idiots because they obviously didn't understand that there were two different hierarchies.

What you may have experienced was someone "calling" an item that they wanted. That's a completely different animal. That's an instance where they can't Need so they have to Greed and they're asking the party to Pass.

[Akamadoshi]

What you may have experienced was someone "calling" an item that they wanted. That's a completely different animal. That's an instance where they can't Need so they have to Greed and they're asking the party to Pass.

Ah, no, as stated, when someone said of needing an item it was always negotiated in peace. I was in shock when greed happened (It was not me who put greed, other players) it was few occasions I witness them getting harassed/bullied for greeding (and the ones who needed never had said anything) It was in my opinion very harsh ,, if I need an item I tend to ask the group if it is okay to. This happens a lot, with no issue. But I had experiences where it was not said, and when someone greed on something - it was terrible. But as you have suggested is always the best!

[TaleraRistain]

Ah, no, as stated, when someone said of needing an item it was always negotiated in peace. I was in shock when greed happened (It was not me who put greed, other players) it was few occasions I witness them getting harassed/bullied for greeding (and the ones who needed never had said anything) It was in my opinion very harsh ,, if I need an item I tend to ask the group if it is okay to. This happens a lot, with no issue. But I had experiences where it was not said, and when someone greed on something - it was terrible. But as you have suggested is always the best!

Yeah that's not actually the "Need" and "Greed" options in the game. If anyone in the group "Needs", you don't see the "Greed" rolls at all. So no one would be able to harass someone for choosing the Greed option. It does sound like a situation where no one could select "Need" so everyone had the "Greed" option and someone asked the party to hit "Pass" instead. And one person didn't. Drama ensues. It happens and most of the time people aren't doing it on purpose. They're just on auto with what they pick trying to get the window out of their face.

[Remedi]

I don't know if this will last, but I agree that this is anything but a working solution and should bring the Need button back and since they are there they should take a closer look to 24 man raid rewards in general especially if any x.x8 patch is going to remove savage lockouts in the future

[Kyuuen]

I'm running the place mostly for the chance at getting the NIN gear, most specifically the Feet, Chest, and Hands. I've been in 4 times and have yet to see any of said pieces, and the most frustrating part is that even if I do see them, someone could roll and get them whilst said roller may not even have the classes for it even unlocked.

That bs needs changing.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

What is the ilvl of the items in the new raid btw?