relic weapons whats with crappy ilvl and wait

[Reynhart]

What would be the point in putting accessories on odd patches for EX primals when you can already get them without doing the EX Primal? If the relic is better, what's the point in doing the EX primal if it drops weapons? Are we going to pull the accessories out of savage and the tome ones to make it work?

If you read what I wrote, the idea is exactly that only EX primals would drop accessories and tha the only weapons would be in Additionnal content. So, no content would negate another one since they'd all give different slots.

What gear reward do you suggest them putting into Ultimate then if it's not going to be one of the best weapons?

Considering Ultimate Weapons are already at the same ilvl as raid weapons, they only marginally improve your character already. So, I'd say something like unique mounts. Or, if the game would actually have more depth, some unique effect on gear, not related to a mathematic advantage.

[Vaer]

If you read what I wrote, the idea is exactly that only EX primals would drop accessories and tha the only weapons would be in Additionnal content. So, no content would negate another one since they'd all give different slots.

So we're going to completely delete upgraded tome gear and accessories? Because that system falls apart if tome gear still exists. (You need the base ilvl (in this case 360) to provide a reward for the even patch EX primal) Personally, I think that is a really bad idea. So players who don't do EX or raid are stuck at lower ilvls just so they can have a better weapon. Seems like a bad trade. Right now you get everything else after 3 months but the weapon is delayed.

I actually wouldn't mind that personally, but it would really hurt casual players and non raiders. The power gap would widen and they wouldn't be able to join some PFs since their avg ilvl would be lower than someone who does all the harder content. Not to mention having the "BiS" stuff in only certain types of content it will probably get weekly locked vs now where the ilvl is not the "best" but has no weekly lock. (EX weapons)