relic weapons whats with crappy ilvl and wait

[Vaer]

Besides, if something like the relics would actually be the best weapon right away, it could give confidence to some people to try EX Primals (for best accessories) and Savage raiding (For best armor).

Best armor for 3 months. If you don't raid secondaries mean very little. They give everyone access to raid level 370 ilvl gear on odd patches. What would be the point in putting accessories on odd patches for EX primals when you can already get them without doing the EX Primal? If the relic is better, what's the point in doing the EX primal if it drops weapons? Are we going to pull the accessories out of savage and the tome ones to make it work?

The EX primal weapon has a use to raiders even now. The ones that are stuck on O7S can get a weapon upgrade that isn't weekly capped to help them beat it since the i370 weapon is only available from that fight. It also helps returners get a decent weapon without having to deal with weekly tokens from sigma normal, and about 3 weeks of tomes and it's only 5 ilvl lower than the tome upgraded weapon that only O7S clearers have access to.

This is a have your cake and eat it too scenario.

I'm only talking about gear and not glamour btw.

What gear reward do you suggest them putting into Ultimate then if it's not going to be one of the best weapons?

What about Heaven on High? It has a weapon, too. If relic is better what's the point in doing that to get the weapon?

I feel like the current design (basically delaying higher ilvl weapons by a month to give content relevance) allows them to be more flexible in what rewards they can provide.

I mean I guess it might work if it was super grindy (think gordias unidentified step) but then it wouldn't even be a casual weapon anymore. By the time most people finish it a new set of weapons will be out making the work mostly pointless so it would be a wash until the end of expansion, but the relic is already better at end of expansion usually so nothing would really change except it becoming a super grind.