[Lighthouse Spoilers] Can we please stop with the stupid fetch quests?

[Barachim]

It's easy to tell who isn't a genuine fan of Ivalice. The entire point of that stage of the quest chain was to build up a reference to Vagrant Story. A subtle one, granted, though a reference nonetheless. The main location where Vagrant Story takes place is Lea Monde - which is famous for it's wine. One of the bottles involved is even called "Lea Monde' outright.

And they could have worked in those references, in a less asinine way.

[RiyahArp]

It wasn't a 'flop' - it's a beloved cult classic and one of the most highly rated games of all time.

Theodric, when it was released, it was a flop. People really didn't like the risk thing, and the endless modification-based gameplay. It was very well made for what it was, but at the time people weren't really looking for that style of gameplay or difficulty. I think it might be a case where people who play it now love it, because their tastes have changed, but at the time despite the reviews, it really didn't do well. I mean even tail concerto and rhapsody got sequels; vagrant story didn't.

In either case, its far too obscure a game for people to realize what it references. You have to be careful with that.

[Emstidor]

Can you really call any video game that has a subsequent "Greatest Hits" release a flop, though? Like, it's literally in the name, lol.

[Iscah]

I mean, taking a bottle out of a blind lalafell's hands and then proceeding with a plan which is the most disrespectful thing we could do to what I considered as a friend of the Warrior of Light (probably not anymore now)... Sounds like something the "Hero of Eorzea" would do, right?

I don't care about fetch quests. It's an MMORPG, they are expected every now and then. But please, writers, don't turn my character into some kind of big jerk, taking advantage of a disabled lalafell and now former friend whose story is quite humbling.
Even the ascians aren't that mean.

I don't think Shamani's blindness had anything to do with it really... except that we couldn't glance at each other and shrug exasperatedly. (If you talk to him afterwards he makes dry humour of it, AND basically tells us to go with the ridiculous plan. "I saw nothing. Nothing at all.") I didn't get any impression that we're betraying his trust in the end - I thought we'd both just given up and were going with the bizarreness of it.

And lets not forget that we helped that one NPC at wineport (the roe) to find the last few plants of a certain wine..thus we are a savior of that too and he just still threats us like we never did something for him.

Correct in overall effect, though actually it was Shamani Lohmani that we helped track down the grape vines for. He gifted them to Byrglaent (despite him being Shamani's business rival and generally an unpleasant person) because he'd be better at looking after them. I don't think we helped him directly, not enough to develop any kind of rapport.

[RiyahArp]

All it takes to get on that is 150-200k copies sold at the time. The PsOne had a lot of junk games on the greatest hits label: there are two frogger games for example, FIVE digimon games, and plenty of popular at the times games no one would touch now. At the time square was so hot people would buy almost anything by them, but the game itself fell off quickly. I think the resurgence of interest is mostly from it being available on e-shops or emulation, and that as gamers liked harder games, its difficulty is welcomed.

[enthauptet]

Can you really call any video game that has a subsequent "Greatest Hits" release a flop, though? Like, it's literally in the name, lol.

It depends, some games get re-released because they did not sell well at the time but the market has changed so they are trying to make more profit on 0 added effort on their part. This is why Sony is releasing like every PS1 game ever on PS marketplace. It takes very low effort to get money this way. I have no idea about the game in question, I never heard about it before but my neighbour had FFT and I had tried that before but I don't like the tile based gameplay so I never got very far.

[Theodric]

There's another reference to Vagrant Story in the form of the name of Jenomis' wife - Tia. Given what he says as part of his dialogue there's a rather dark implication that he is considering how the auracite could bring her back. Given how big a part the undead played in Vagrant Story itself then I would not be surprised if the Vagrant Story references are even more numerous during the third stage of the quest chain.

[MrSmiley]

And they could have worked in those references, in a less asinine way.

It took what, 5 minutes? People are making a huge deal out of an extremely short "fetch quest"

[TheGrimace]

Please show us on the doll where the questline touched you. Jesus. I liked the quest but do not think it should have been imperative, only optional, but some of you act like it killed your dog. It took maybe 45 minutes to do if you read the text, and if you were that disgusted you could do it in ten by skipping.

[Erudito]

To me, that fetch quest came out of nowhere, served very little in terms of lore building and world connecting and downright annoyed me at how long it was. I do not want to do a quest like that again at this stage, it was way too much coming and going for such a minuscule reward.