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  1. #571
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    kikix12's Avatar
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    I think that a fair compromise would be changing the the system a bit to give "Need" for the gear of your class, but only until you get it for the first time. Once you do, you can never "Need" on it again, whether or not you have it at the time.

    The gear and drop system in place is ridiculous due to the options there are not related to actually using it. Desynthesis and turning in for grand company seals is a massive pain due to how there is an unlimited need for that (for those that care about those). Then there is selling for gil (if someone is running the content, they may as well try to get that extra gil) for everyone else. With "Need" button permanently etched on, it's effectively impossible in most parties to get the gear for your off-class. The greed button could as well be dropped completely and the gear could drop randomly to one of the people for which it would be a "Need", not much would change then.

    But if there is a "Need" button only until you first obtain it, then you will be able to get it by playing the class certainly. You sell it, turn in for seals or anything else?! Well, you can still get more, but only with greed, as that's basically what the second copy is. If you no longer have it when you did before, then you clearly don't need it anymore. This would solve the issue pretty much completely while still allow people to be "polite" by playing with their best class and still roll on the gear with a chance of getting it.
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  2. #572
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    Losara's Avatar
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    Axis Sunsoar
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 98
    Wouldn't mind some kind of token system being implemented into the 24 man raids where if you have 3-5 tokens (1 per trip) you can swap it directly for a piece of equipment.

    Can just make it that you can only exchange for one piece of equipment per week.
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  3. #573
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    Feya Ares
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    This is the worst things I saw since I started the game at ARR.
    I'm just thinking... why ?
    24 man should be an "easy" way to have a "good" stuff for people who wants to stuff alt or main job for incoming patch or whatever reason.
    Right now it's such a pain to have your weekly loot especially if you are here only for one class...
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    Add a soundtrack to your life and perfect it

  4. #574
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I have yet to run into the problem of people getting loot I wanted...

    Because over 10 or so runs of the Lighthouse I have only seen caster and healer loot, which I don't want.

    So much for the all greed addressing people having to do multiple runs, because rolls were never the problem...
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  5. #575
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    I think that a fair compromise
    Why does there need to be a 'compromise'? This is how devs keep getting away with putting out garbages. They put out something that is legit garbage and we do mental gymnastics trying to find ways to let them save face instead of forcing them to be adults and admit it's not a good change.

    I won't stop playing the game just because a dev made a mistake and admitted it. I WILL stop playing the game (and paying for it) if they keep cramming bad changes into the game. Right now they are in the number 2 slot. That's not going to last long if the goal is to continue this toxic environment.
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  6. #576
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    Feya Ares
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I won't stop playing the game just because a dev made a mistake and admitted it. I WILL stop playing the game (and paying for it) if they keep cramming bad changes into the game. Right now they are in the number 2 slot. That's not going to last long if the goal is to continue this toxic environment.
    You're fully right.
    I already stopped two other MMO because of this reason and FF14 is the only good MMO I've played with an interaction between the team and community.
    It's a real pleasure to see a team who admit "we were wrong sorry guys, we make it reverse" instead of "it's a good decision for you 'cause it's a good decision for us".
    Everybody can do mistake, now let's see the future.

    I think it's just an indicator on how the game will evolve and how the community will be treated.
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  7. #577
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    Asuka Kiyomi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Ugh thanks to the greed only crap it went from “oh boy I hope rng gives me a slim chance for my gear to drop” and I have infamous luck with my friends where my gear on my job NEVER drops but now when the gear I want drops I have to basicly sacrifice a goat to the rng gods praying for a 99

    :/ this has made gearing my other classes from slightly annoying to just a pure pain
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    Last edited by DracotheDragon; 05-25-2018 at 05:07 AM. Reason: changed HEARING for GEARING to make more sense.

  8. #578
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    For all the talks of "you should use tomes to gear your main" I feel like a lot of people, SE included, forget that not everyone caps on Mendacity weekly and aren't swimming in Creation either. For people like that, getting the 330 pieces from Rabanastre would actually gear them up a fair bit and save them the Creation or even Mendacity to be used on other pieces of gear at the same time. And that's not even counting the new raid where it's likely worse because it's an upgrade for everyone's alts.

    For a game that keeps telling us it's ok to take breaks, they legit broke one of the ways to gear up after such a hiatus.
    No one cares about the "alts" the people with the main jobs are screwed if they need that gear.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  9. #579
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    Rofel's Avatar
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    Rofel Dokfel
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Is there any mod taking a look at this topic?

    I know it sucks to make a lot of topics about the same subject, but it was said previously that if the ""feature"" wasn't well received, they would consider removing it. So we need to know our feedback is being taking in consideration.
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  10. #580
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Aro Foreal
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm not going to run the 24 man content again. The whole greed system has messed it up.

    Also the pathetic math boss has put me off altogether. I play games for fun, not to do math problems.
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