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    Bonus points for glam plates not being allowed outside of cities and other non instance places. Let's just destroy the glam endgame why don't we.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovenmitts View Post
    Bonus points for glam plates not being allowed outside of cities and other non instance places. Let's just destroy the glam endgame why don't we.
    This (along with the fact it used to just flat out eat your gear with no way to retrieve, though they'll finally fix that) is why I stick to using prisms. I have retainers that can level off of bringing back hundreds of items used for their making, anyway. A lot easier on me in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    This (along with the fact it used to just flat out eat your gear with no way to retrieve, though they'll finally fix that) is why I stick to using prisms. I have retainers that can level off of bringing back hundreds of items used for their making, anyway. A lot easier on me in the long run.
    I fiiinally tried the glamour dresser last night, as I figured with the change, I can soon retrieve my items if I hate it. Perhaps this is my own fault for not reading up on it, but I thought one of the perks of this was that you could finally have a separate glamour for jobs that share gear. Like I thought I could have one outfit, glamoured with normal prisms, and then make a separate plate for the 2nd job. Turns out you can't I really don't feel like using up 3/10 of the available plates just to make my DoL jobs look different. So yeah, i'm a bit disappointed with the system and will stick with prisms I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I fiiinally tried the glamour dresser last night, as I figured with the change, I can soon retrieve my items if I hate it. Perhaps this is my own fault for not reading up on it, but I thought one of the perks of this was that you could finally have a separate glamour for jobs that share gear. Like I thought I could have one outfit, glamoured with normal prisms, and then make a separate plate for the 2nd job. Turns out you can't I really don't feel like using up 3/10 of the available plates just to make my DoL jobs look different. So yeah, i'm a bit disappointed with the system and will stick with prisms I think.
    I think you seriously misunderstand how the glamour plates work if you think that "stick with prisms" is any particular benefit over the plates.

    Think of them as a way of doing multiple glamour prisms at once. You can make a plate for another job, just need to apply it. No different than if you were using regular prisms and needed to glamour different pieces for different jobs.

    If you think of them as just an express way of doing multiple prisms at once (that can only be done in cities), it makes a lot more sense as to why there's no downside to it over prisms. They're not 2 separate systems, they're the same glamour system, just 2 different ways of using "cast glamour".

    And because they're the same system, you can mix them. You can do some glamours with prisms and then do other glamours with plates, you can overwrite glamours from plates with prisms, and vice versa. The glamour system itself does not change, just how you cast it (and how many glamour prism items are needed to do it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    I think you seriously misunderstand how the glamour plates work if you think that "stick with prisms" is any particular benefit over the plates.

    Think of them as a way of doing multiple glamour prisms at once. You can make a plate for another job, just need to apply it. No different than if you were using regular prisms and needed to glamour different pieces for different jobs.

    If you think of them as just an express way of doing multiple prisms at once (that can only be done in cities), it makes a lot more sense as to why there's no downside to it over prisms. They're not 2 separate systems, they're the same glamour system, just 2 different ways of using "cast glamour".

    And because they're the same system, you can mix them. You can do some glamours with prisms and then do other glamours with plates, you can overwrite glamours from plates with prisms, and vice versa. The glamour system itself does not change, just how you cast it (and how many glamour prism items are needed to do it).
    I could very well just need to get used to the system. While in town, I like to switch up a few outfits for fun, and I definitely don't have enough plates for all of those outfits. So I suppose I need to figure out which I want to use as proper gear sets vs. fluff items to keep on hand.

    Also, removing the plate glamour is annoying at the moment, but it sounds like they're addressing that with the patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I fiiinally tried the glamour dresser last night, as I figured with the change, I can soon retrieve my items if I hate it. Perhaps this is my own fault for not reading up on it, but I thought one of the perks of this was that you could finally have a separate glamour for jobs that share gear. Like I thought I could have one outfit, glamoured with normal prisms, and then make a separate plate for the 2nd job. Turns out you can't I really don't feel like using up 3/10 of the available plates just to make my DoL jobs look different. So yeah, i'm a bit disappointed with the system and will stick with prisms I think.
    This will be possible in 4.3 when you can link glamour plates to gear sets.
    Only thing needed would be as much platees as possible gear sets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    This will be possible in 4.3 when you can link glamour plates to gear sets.
    Only thing needed would be as much platees as possible gear sets...
    I don’t think that’s going to fix “needing three plates for three DoL jobs” and similar issues. I expect it will still require a plate set up for each appearance, and it will still be “permanently” glamoured onto the gear when you equip the associated gearset. Like what people are doing now with macros, except the system would do it automatically when you equip the set.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 05-19-2018 at 09:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don’t think that’s going to fix “needing three plates for three DoL jobs” and similar issues. I expect it will still require a plate set up for each appearance, and it will still be “permanently” glamoured onto the gear when you equip the associated gearset. Like what people are doing now with macros, except the system would do it automatically when you equip the set.
    I think this wont be an issue for long, as they will hopefully upgrade the amount of available plates in the next patches.
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    This haircut is ugly as hell...thanks SE...:/
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