Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[NewAgeDoom]

The tanks that constantly reposition bosses ALL the time, inevitable screwing up my Trick Attack(s) at the LAST possible second.

All of my rage.

[Rivxkobe]

DRK saying something along the lines of "don't need cds in <70 content"

I have no words... This is literally one of the dumbest...

Anyway I did Trials today and got Susan NM. I was PLD. I have never tanked this before and haven't fought him since I returned 2 weeks ago. Half of the rest of the party either was new to it or hadn't run it in a while. We wiped after the first sword because team forgot to do the balls and kill the sword while I held it.

We got through it a second time and 3 times my team wiped to just me, the WAR and one of the Healers. I thought it would be a wipe, and stated as such. But two times the surviving WHM was able to rez the other healer and the RDM and we were able to bring it back, the third time they used the Lv. 3 Healer LB. Needless to say we were able to get through it and my team was amazing, no one got upset or angry.

This community happily surprises me at times.

...

He may have been tunnel vision-ing. It can happen at times, especially when you are overgeared for content, and as a Healer you can DPS more than Heal. He obviously should have healed and I wasn't there so I'm not sure how he was acting, but I know that I have neglected healing sometimes when I am running content and just spamming base DPS spell because I'm not paying attention. Not an excuse and again he should have healed but I was just saying it is a possibility.

However there are healers who will put DPS > Healing in many situation. Which is obviously bad.

[Tracewood]

Reading these as a newish tank trying to get WAR to 70, I never realized how many tanks just try to wing dungeons in DPS mode. When I go DPS trash dies so fast (humble brag), and there are lots of moments I rip hate, even on bosses but things die so quick I rarely notice. Some tanks will put on tank stance on the boss, but that's in the later ones. I'm no pro, just DPSing on the same two jobs for years you learn to optimize without really thinking about it.

Yeah, there's a time and place it use DPS stance, like if a boss is already near death and you want that little oomph, but I'd prefer my healers to DPS more as long as they keep me topped or close to. Had a healer compliment me in Sohm Al the other day, for this reason.

[Anarnee]

So I do alliance roulette.

It's World of Darkness

Say hello etc.

This green leaf bard says in party chat "I wonder if I can get away with only auto attacking this run.

I roll my eyes and assume its a joke.

But no. This guy literally only auto attacks the adds, and the first boss. Here I am dpsing to my best, healing and rezing half the team when they all die from Doom.

I was so annoyed. So I go to vote kick out of frustration.

It does not pass.

I am fuming. TILTED. I almost say something but I just go on and help with the next set of adds.

The bard keeps just auto attacking...

and I am like. Is no one paying attention???

So we get to hydra, I go in, but then in protest I sit outside the room.

No one says a thing. We go on to Atomos and I decide to just auto attack.

We do it. No one says anything or does anything.

Cerberus I wanted to do the same thing, but I watched the Mt drop really low, and decide to Bene him just in time. Hit them with a regen and just kept auto attacking.

We get to Cloud and wipe one time. I literally only help get the meteors and pop a regen on the other healer and the MT.

In my head I am ranting. I'm not working hard when this dude is literally doing nothing. Why should I?

We wipe cause not enough people in meteors. Well at least I did that right.

We do it again and I afk to start typing this rant. Do meteors, a few regens... Boom we do it.

I bolt to the exit cause I am done. I can't believe the bard got away with it, and no one said a dang thing to either of us.

I still got a comm.

-foams at mouth-

TAKE IT BACK I DON'T WANT YOUR DIRTY COMM I DID NOT DESERVE IT.

I feel dirty and I hate myself and that bard.

Please don't let people do that. Kick them. That is not ok.

It really stunts my morale. Give 200% and then watch others give less that 1%.

I was being petty and I don't care. Everyone gonna just let that happen. No. I'm not working hard to carry someone like that. >:/

[Stellafreyja]

Yesterday, I actually had to kick someone in PotD. Started fine. Early on, the Arcanist in our party asked to PLD to go Sword Oath (he was in Shield Oath). Our PLD ended up d/c-ing. The rest of us continue and unlocked the next floor. PLD reconnects and takes a bit to finally get back and get to the warp.

Arcanist: "Can you hurry up I'm getting tilted."
Me: "It's potd chill."
Arcanist: "Exactly, I don't wanna spend 30 mins in here."
I rolled my eyes here pretty hard. Someone else had also responded with "chill" because...for real...
Arcanist: "Alright, I'm tilted."
And then proceeded to pull the entire room and kill himself. Proceeded to vote kick him. Hope he enjoyed those wasted 10 mins having to restart back at floor 51.

[Anarnee]

I think you gave them what they wanted. No one does that if they want to finish the run. I have seen plenty of people sabotage PotD runs when they didn't want to finish with that group.

I had a 91-100 group that was all dps, two of the DPS were together and they tried to get us killed just so they could requeue with a new party.

Edit: Well, correction, they tried to, failed and then we rezzed them and they did actually get us killed.

[Makeda]

The tanks that constantly reposition bosses ALL the time, inevitable screwing up my Trick Attack(s) at the LAST possible second.

All of my rage.

As a tank in MMOs since 2005 who's presently leveling Ninja I kinda see this from both sides of things.


Standing in one place as a tank is seriously boring. I consider it bad fight design when they make that a requirement. It takes me an effort of will sometimes to not move...

Frankly on my Ninja I feel the same way... I move and swerve a lot - and often swatch enemies just to give me an excuse to have to reposition. Having played a lot of Overwatch of late - over there you have to be able to stick to a moving target's back that is trying to get you off it's back... BUT most people don't play FPS games so they're not used to thinking like that.

But I get that it can complicate things...

As a tank I do try to use my movement as a way to help line up DPS more... and I also get it from seeing co-tanks or the tanks when I DPS that don't know how to do this...

There's a massive difference between 'move things to help the group' and not... Just as bad as the tank that moves needlessly is the tank that stands in one spot forcing the DPS to be unable to get behind a boss safely...

Reading these as a newish tank trying to get WAR to 70, I never realized how many tanks just try to wing dungeons in DPS mode.

To be fair to these tanks... go into the tanking forums and post up that "ya'll need to just learn to tank and stay in tank stance" and watch the flame throwers roasting you...
- They'll do it because if they followed that advice, most of them would lose their raid spots.

This game is weird...

As I've seen it noted recently, tanks here are just glorified DPS. We're more like the "Brute" class of City of Villains - tank mitigation in this game sucks compared to most MMOs. Enemies don't hit that hard... this is done on purpose... The tank busters are few and far between, and the mitigation skills do minor things like reduce 20% for 5 seconds every 2 minutes...

Raid groups expect the tank to do between 80-110% of the DPS that the DPS does... and the healers are expected to be about 60-80%...

Other MMOs have mobs that one-shot anyone but the tank if they get in so much as a single hit, and those are the 'white damage' moves, not the tank buster moves. Tanks stay in tank mode all the time, DPS stay in DPS mode, and healers stay in heal mode - or you wipe.

But here, everyone is basically a DPS most of the time... and if you're not pulling your DPS weight, you get cut. Some groups give healers slack on this, but a lot of them won't.

[Makeda]

Yesterday, I actually had to kick someone in PotD. Started fine. Early on, the Arcanist in our party asked to PLD to go Sword Oath (he was in Shield Oath). Our PLD ended up d/c-ing. The rest of us continue and unlocked the next floor. PLD reconnects and takes a bit to finally get back and get to the warp.

I actually did PoTD recently twice, in grit stance on DRK purposefully.

I haven't played my tanks here in 6 months, so it seemed like the best place to be a bad tank was PoTD... So I went in there and acted like I was tanking it. Very handy for trying to find where the actions where and what would proc what. And given PotD, it probably only slowed things down by a matter of seconds...

[Mesarthim]

Well the run went fine but...

I healed sirensong via roulette for a cluster. Tank had a 255 NQ weapon, one of the newer pink items from diadem for a hat, I think 230 boots, but body, glove, belt and legs were all ilvl 200. Think they even had a gubal normal ring or somemthing aorund that range. Really wish people weren't allowed to go into leveling dungeons in this manner. They were squishy and were lucky I was the one healing.

#RequirementsForLevelingDungeons

[Yenyen]

Reading these as a newish tank trying to get WAR to 70, I never realized how many tanks just try to wing dungeons in DPS mode. When I go DPS trash dies so fast (humble brag), and there are lots of moments I rip hate, even on bosses but things die so quick I rarely notice. Some tanks will put on tank stance on the boss, but that's in the later ones. I'm no pro, just DPSing on the same two jobs for years you learn to optimize without really thinking about it.

Yeah, there's a time and place it use DPS stance, like if a boss is already near death and you want that little oomph, but I'd prefer my healers to DPS more as long as they keep me topped or close to. Had a healer compliment me in Sohm Al the other day, for this reason.

It's sort of hard to ask stuff of people nowadays or even give pointers without coming off as an ass,
I were in a dungeon, tank is mass pulling because she can and we have Aoe, I notice the Dps spamming single target stuff on maybe 10 mobs, so... I'm like
guys could you use Aoe (so stuff dies faster less healing for me), "the games more fun without some 1 in your ear telling you what to do all the time" I just said okay and stopped.


I did Skalla with 2 friends and a random tank, we got to the 2nd boss and I started a countdown, it ends my friends run in tank walks out, so so do we.
"You can tank if you want"
Me: "Oh please don't start that with me, you didn't say anything about going afk", what I wanted to actually say is "I won't pay your sub anymore"

Admittedly I believe I can be condensing, only I have no ill intent I just tend to pay a lot more attention to detail when I'm healing than if I'm tanking or dpsing