Another WHM chicken little sees the sky falling. The sky is an AST.

[Mortex]

That the reason people dont want to play Astro in Ultimate -_- the amount of time you have and the time you need to do what you are suppose to do is just isnt there. You just need to look at the logs to see that.

[Ghishlain]

That the reason people dont want to play Astro in Ultimate -_- the amount of time you have and the time you need to do what you are suppose to do is just isnt there. You just need to look at the logs to see that.

All logs does is show that AST has a low participation number. It means "something is amiss" but it's hard to diagnosis what's amiss without delving deeper into. Also, all I've seen you contribute to this thread thus far is "AST is a steaming pile of dog poop and needs buffs" - yet you've failed to say why you feel AST is in such a terrible spot and provide any sort of remedy to this problem you perceive.

I look at your limited posted history and I see the same thing over and over. Which leads me to the (potentially incorrect) assumption that you're just a salty AST with no credentials or merits to your actual comments.

If you want more productive responses - drop the salt and be more constructive with your comments. All I hear right now is a baby whining that their rattle is blue when they wanted a pink rattle that the other two babies have.

I have my reasons and knowledge to understand why AST isn't heavily relied on in the Ultimate tier, but there's no use bringing that to the table if you can't show you'll have a proper discussion about it.

[Sebazy]

That the reason people dont want to play Astro in Ultimate -_- the amount of time you have and the time you need to do what you are suppose to do is just isnt there. You just need to look at the logs to see that.

In my eyes, the issue with AST in Ultimate is two fold:

First off, it's pretty clear that it cannot compete with SCH for the shielding slot. SCH just runs rings around AST for both sheer survivability and HPS in this encounter, it plain suits SCH's toolkit better and it's obvious that this is the case right from Twin.

To a lesser extent, the same can also be said about WHM vs AST for the regen slot. Whilst AST is more viable here, it still lags behind WHM.

Frankly, I'd be inclined to suspect the fight was just tuned and tested around a WHM and SCH pairing. This is especially notable with the way that cooldowns align towards the end of the encounter. With this is mind, I don't think AST will ever be on a level footing with WHM and SCH as far as Ultimate Coil is concerned, at least not unless it gets over tuned in a manner akin to 3.4 again.

As far as Savage goes? On paper AST is absolutely fine and plenty capable being competitive with WHM. I feel the issue isn't so much potencies, but rather a more simple case of the job just not being particularly pleasant, engaging or rewarding to play. SCH is a great class with tons of depth and potential for top tier players to really shine. WHM is much simpler but brings sufficient resources and pace to lend it an air of brute force to it's play style. With AST you get a plenty decent healing toolkit but with impotent feeling DPS and a buff system that constantly gnaws away at your own personal contribution. I suspect this last detail is why the job often doesn't sit right with many.

So aye, if SE can get AST flowing a little better and help it feel a little more rewarding to play (Stuff such as removing the damage penalty from Lightspeed is the right way to go IMHO) then I think they will be on the right track.