To all those people that loved the MW and did not want an AH

[Charismatic]

Already stated you and others don't know what an auction actually is.

Let's cut the bullshit right here.
I don't care what you want to call it, FFXI has exactly what I'm talking about and they call it an Auction House. When many people in this community ask for an Auction House, guess what they are referring to (being that many come from FFXI). Rather than try to re-explain what I'm talking about when a majority understand via having played XI or being knowledgeable about that game's systems I'm calling it what Square-Enix calls it. With that said, the system we're moving to is simply a less efficient version of what was in FFXI.
There is no advantage.

[Issac]

If any of you who opposed AH dare use it OP will personally put each and every one of you in time-out.

But I don't wanna go in time out! No no no no NO!

[Demacia]

In any discussion about whether or not an item is qualifies to be part of a group (or to be defined by a certain adjective, or what have you), it's important to establish a set of criteria for admittance to that group (or a clear definition of the adjective, etc.). This is to avoid the horrors of equivocation. So, yes, for the purpose of this discussion, it's important that we're all clear on what an Auction House, an auction, and perhaps even a bid are.

By a similar token, if we were discussing Pluto's status as a dwarf planet, it would be important to look at the IAU's criteria for planets and determine if Pluto meets them.

Now, for the purpose of the game, no, I don't much care what they call it. It could be the lollipop guild for all I care. Similarly, to many people Pluto will always be a planet. It's only in discussions about whether or not something really is what people claim it is that the definitions are important.

I like and can agree with your response, but I still think you're taking it all way too seriously. Anyway, I believe that in the end the only thing people are truly interested in as far as an "AH" goes is the speed and convenience, which is what we're getting with 1.20 isn't it?

I have no idea why people are fussing over this.

[Tsuga]

Really. I don't know how many people need to say explain that wards with menu buy is not an auction? Infect you just said it.

I don't know how many people have to say that Auction Houses in MMOs are generally not defined by the fact that they host actual auctions. They're usually an NPC or window where you list items for a price, and other players can search for that item and buy from said window for the price that you listed them at.

Call it what you want, but if you've read anything past our request for a thing called an Auction House, you'd see that what a lot of us were asking for was not so different from what we're getting in 1.20.

[Demacia]

Let's cut the bullshit right here.
I don't care what you want to call it, FFXI has exactly what I'm talking about and they call it an Auction House. When many people in this community ask for an Auction House, guess what they are referring to (being that many come from FFXI). Rather than try to re-explain what I'm talking about when a majority understand via having played XI or being knowledgeable about that game's systems I'm calling it what Square-Enix calls it. With that said, the system we're moving to is simply a less efficient version of what was in FFXI.
There is no advantage.

This guy said it right.

[Vorn]

Let's cut the bullshit right here.
I don't care what you want to call it, FFXI has exactly what I'm talking about and they call it an Auction House. When many people in this community ask for an Auction House, guess what they are referring to (being that many come from FFXI). Rather than try to re-explain what I'm talking about when a majority understand via having played XI or being knowledgeable about that game's systems I'm calling it what Square-Enix calls it. With that said, the system we're moving to is simply a less efficient version of what was in FFXI.
There is no advantage.

I played xi for many years, plz.

You could NOT sell an incomplete stack, you could NoT buy an incomplete stack.

You Payed time and time again a fee to post each item, sold or unsold

You had all unsold going to your mog, so to repost you had to go in your house, then back to the auction house.

You had 8 selling spots

You could NOT see the items price, you had to guess and hope you either got it, or didn't over pay.

You had dicks eraseing history

You had pricks peen posting also messing up history

6 mo ago, I'd agree with you.....
But no. Not today.

[Vorn]

I don't know how many people have to say that Auction Houses in MMOs are generally not defined by the fact that they host actual auctions. They're usually an NPC or window where you list items for a price, and other players can search for that item and buy from said window for the price that you listed them at.

Call it what you want, but if you've read anything past our request for a thing called an Auction House, you'd see that what a lot of us were asking for was not so different from what we're getting in 1.20.

Whatever your referring isn't in this thread..

Go read my first post, this player only started this over me saying ah has pros, but wards have advantages too

[Viridiana]

I like and can agree with your response, but I still think you're taking it all way too seriously. Anyway, I believe that in the end the only thing people are truly interested in as far as an "AH" goes is the speed and convenience, which is what we're getting with 1.20 isn't it?

I have no idea why people are fussing over this.

Yeah, most of the people asking for an "AH" were really just asking for a much-improved MW and calling it an AH. What we're getting with the patch is a setup that many of us were asking for, yes.

It's only when people start talking nonsense about auctions lasting indefinitely that I start getting fussy about definitions.

[Charismatic]

Get fussy with Square-Enix then. They termed it Auction House in their previous game in this same genre... they called it an Auction House, so that is what I'm gonna call it.

[Viridiana]

Get fussy with Square-Enix then. They termed it Auction House in their previous game in this same genre... they called it an Auction House, so that is what I'm gonna call it.

Again, within the game, they can call it whatever they want. I just expect players talking outside the game to realize that what SE calls it isn't necessarily what it actually is, especially if the players are going to try to use it to argue a point outside the game they're referencing.