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  1. #21
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    Where does the OP say they’re being forced to run content? They’re expressing their concerns about the rewards of running MSQ Roulette, not the actual roulette. That’s a valid complaint, and just as important to bring up as anything else on this forum. Personally, I find the general ineptness to look past one’s own thoughts and opinions and have a broader perspective to be hilarious, so thanks for the laugh .

    OP: your reasons are why I have never did the new roulette after the changes. Square can’t pay me to run years old content that’ll take me an hour to complete.
    Making assumptions just shows how utterly inept you are..... (see what i did there?)
    That and the remark about it being negative (As far as the parties)...is wrong...been running it lately as I've had nothing but time on my hands...people generally are nice. It used to be bad...but now people generally are rather funny.

    So I stand on my case...if you don't like it..don't run it.
    Complaining about it...waste of time. You have to run it once...then you can walk away.
    This is not a "concern" - this is a bold faced complaint thread...just like all the rest. You can put lipstick on a pig all you want..its still a pig.
    Move along now....
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    Last edited by NephthysVasudan; 05-07-2018 at 08:07 AM.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Making assumptions just shows how utterly inept you are..... (see what i did there?)
    That and the remark about it being negative (As far as the parties)...is wrong...been running it lately as I've had nothing but time on my hands...people generally are nice. It used to be bad...but now people generally are rather funny.
    That I'll agree with you on, since both of your sample data are way too small for it to be absolute.
    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan
    So I stand on my case...if you don't like it..don't run it.
    Complaining about it...waste of time. You have to run it once...then you can walk away.
    This is not a "concern" - this is a bold faced complaint thread...just like all the rest. You can put lipstick on a pig all you want..its still a pig.
    Move along now....
    And that's where I disagree. You say they're complaining, I say they're leaving their opinion here for us to discuss. Just because it doesn't suit your agenda doesn't mean it's a waste of time, and I feel saying otherwise creates an idea that criticism must be positive on these forums.
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    Way ahead of you sister. I no longer had a reason to run msq roulette way before the cutscene changes
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  4. #24
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    Used to run this before the cutscene changes, since that changed, I do it when i have an extreme amount of free time which is very rare, other than that never.
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    Of all the options SE could've done (e.g. downscaling the instances to 4-man parties, removing any filler cutscenes) they went for the least inspired choice. Not that I really ran it that much prior to the new changes, but since then if I ever end up needing any poetics I'll just resort to other avenues.
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    Aari Anne
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    The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



    over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



    over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.
    Long before the unskippable cutscenes came out, Main Scenario Roulette duties always took a while to pop for DPS players. The release of Samurai and Red Mage as DPS roles solidified the situation. Tanks and healers tend to get in either dungeon in less than 5 minutes, even with the unskippable cutscenes.

    I still prefer Castrum Meridianum because most of my runs are still cleared in less than 30 minutes, even with the unskippable cutscenes. The tomes, gil, and exp earned is pretty reasonable in a 30-minute timeframe IMO.

    YMMV as far as the exp earned from getting the Praetorium in the Main Scenario Roulette goes.
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  8. #28
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    That I'll agree with you on, since both of your sample data are way too small for it to be absolute.


    And that's where I disagree. You say they're complaining, I say they're leaving their opinion here for us to discuss. Just because it doesn't suit your agenda doesn't mean it's a waste of time, and I feel saying otherwise creates an idea that criticism must be positive on these forums.
    Yes...an opinion that required a new thread for something that's already been discussed ad nausea is always a good idea.
    Good thing its just an opinion.

    Keep on making those assumptions....
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  9. #29
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp View Post
    The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



    over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.
    MSQ is why you see many people with leveled 70 tanks/healers but not DPS. Once you level all your tanks/healers to 70, MSQ essentially has no rewards. Regardless of the cutscenes.

    Did SE do the right thing? I'm going to say this was ham-handed. This is the only way to ensure that players who want to watch the cutscenes get to watch the cutscenes. The only way the cutscenes should be skipped automatically is if all players have "skip previously viewed cutscenes" enabled. That's it.

    If you're complaining about having to watch them, then stop doing MSQ roulette. It's not for you.
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 100

    I don't run it anymore

    I stopped running it after cutscene changes, even just the possibility of being locked in to it longer than what is typically necessary to clear was motivation enough for me to abandon it entirely.

    And yes, I did used to run it almost daily just for the tomes because I'm an active hunter and gardener so I either use Poetics in Mor Dhona to buy Unidentifiable items to trade for soils in Idylshire OR I buy Mysterious maps in Mor Dhona to try to get a Mor Dhona map to attempt to spawn Agrippa with.

    I have all jobs leveled so I always queue'd as whatever was listed as "in need" on the roulette, typically tank or healer. Though I prefer healer because my general observation was that PuG healers were often not aggressive enough and I felt like pushing healer dps and relying on HoTs and shields to mitigate most damage made the runs go faster. My ideal run for either would be somewhere around 20 minutes. It was a quick and easy thing I could queue for by myself to get some more Poetics while waiting for friends/family to log online.


    Now, since that's no longer possible, I'd honestly rather just poke around zones and look for A Ranks rather than potentially get locked into a 30+ minute dungeon run for the same amount of Poetics. I'm not sure even doubling the poetics would be enough to entice me to participate in this roulette again with unskippable cutscenes, it'd have to err on the side of caution and be something like 500 poetics for the one roulette.

    30 min run, "Sweet, easy 500 Poetics!"

    50+ min run, "... well at least I'm getting 500 Poetics..."


    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    MSQ is why you see many people with leveled 70 tanks/healers but not DPS. Once you level all your tanks/healers to 70, MSQ essentially has no rewards. Regardless of the cutscenes.

    Did SE do the right thing? I'm going to say this was ham-handed. This is the only way to ensure that players who want to watch the cutscenes get to watch the cutscenes. The only way the cutscenes should be skipped automatically is if all players have "skip previously viewed cutscenes" enabled. That's it.

    If you're complaining about having to watch them, then stop doing MSQ roulette. It's not for you.
    The person you're quoting is in Queue for Castrum directly, not MSQ roulette. Assuming they're trying to get it done for MSQ... they mention skipping as in "now the only way to get it done in a timely manner could potentially be to buy the story skip potion."
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    Last edited by Rowde; 05-07-2018 at 02:26 PM.

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