To all those people that loved the MW and did not want an AH

[SniperRifle]

I got like 2 hours to pass til Biology... Oh I know I'll go buy 3 pieces of gear from the MW!

[grandm]

I got like 2 hours to pass til Biology... Oh I know I'll go buy 3 pieces of gear from the MW!

imagine how bored your going to be after 1.20, you'll have to find other things to fill in the time inbetween classes :P

[Antipika]

Don't let me catch you using the AH or buying from the item search menu.

No, you get to go search for the retainer, go to the correct ward, get placed on the opposite end of the retainer your looking for, buy your gear/item, then rinse and repeat till you have everything you need.

I'll just buy from the search menu and buy a complete set of gear while your still buying you first piece. I mean it, I don't want to catch you buying from the menu since you like the MW so much, you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite would you?

I still can't believe they went with MW over an AH. What was Tanaka thinking.

Looking for pic : hater is gonna hate

Delivered.

[Vorn]

Do you even remember the ff11 ah?

Scenario: Sale history 1,000,000 with 2 available
You bid 900,00. Fail
You bid 1,000,000 fail
You bid 1,000,001 fail
You bid 1,000,010 fail
You bid 1,000,100 fail
You bid 1,000,200 fail

Keep going til the actual price this player is actually selling it for......

Not to forget history erases among other things.

Now I'm not for or against ah/mw they both have thier advantages. But buying what I want at a price I know is a huge advantage over bidding, moreso on your time concerns...... really? You can't walk 10 seconds? But you can place an X number of bids for 1 item...
Stop to think of all the fees you pay placing items on an auction. Guess money isn't a huge concern either.....

Ah has it's pros, but seriously mw has it's advantage also.

It's like shopping at a 7-11 that has everything you want at jacked up prices vs going to the store with huge selection and everything is on sale. And yes some days I do prefer a nice dinner at the same cost of a frozen pizza for the same prices with a few min difference, while others I'm lazy and don't want to go the extra mile.

[Viridiana]

What about those of us who said we didn't need an AH, just a vast improvements to the search feature and the ability to buy from the search menu directly? >_>

Honestly, one of the slight blessings of the market ward system that nobody ever considers is the alleviation of a lot of lag. In every MMO out there that possesses an auction house system you always have a massive swarm of characters camping the auction house. No matter what time of day you go by it, there will be hundreds of people sitting there (since barely hundreds play FF14 on besaid server at the same time on ff14, that number is obviously scaled down proportionately).

Honestly, there isnt much threat to this game. Every player on the server could go stand in uldah and it wouldnt slow down that much, cuz there just isnt that many people playing the game anymore. But if the game ever gets a sizable player base back, it's going to have the same annoying issue where going to the auction house results in a drop to your FPS.

Don't get me wrong, i support the ability to shop from the menu... But this was one benefit the wards actually gave to us.

Except that all that lag you're "alleviating" is instead shunted over to the actual ward area themselves. That's why they used to crash all the time. >_>

[Arcell]

I don't think anyone said they wouldn't use an AH if it were in the game. The only argument I ever read (or wrote) was that an AH wasn't absolutely necessary, but at the very least improvements to the MW were needed.

^ pretty much this. I opposed AH initially because MW could have been a good system with some work AND because a good number of people only wanted it because FFXI had it. A lot of people didn't like it initially simply because it was different. Like most of Tanaka's ideas it had potential but was completely unfinished. How it was at launch was awful, how it is now is tolerable. It could be better still but it seems we're starting to just go more for full AH.

Oh and I also hated the specific way XI did it. I didn't have too much experience with it and the way everyone explains it to me, it sounds obnoxiously stupid.

The way we're going to have it is almost the way that most MMOs do and I'm fine with that. I voted for drastic change and if this is part of it, so be it. No problem on my end.

[Charismatic]

but seriously mw has it's advantage also.

I am pretty sure it doesn't have any advantages.

[Dreadnought]

lol OP doesn't really know what the word Auction means, does he?

We are getting improved MW in 1.20 with the ability to buy directly from the menu. We are not getting an AH, and thank god. I don't want to bid on items, its a waste of time.

you dont seem to know that auction houses dont consist of auctioning.
not in aion
not in wow
not in rift
not FFXI.... and so on.

[Viridiana]

you dont seem to know that auction houses dont consist of auctioning.
not in aion
not in wow
not in rift
not FFXI.... and so on.

Can't speak for the others, but in WoW there is an actual auction function. Yes, I know it never gets used, but its presence is enough to justify calling it an auction house.

Like I said in the last big AH/MW post, most of the people asking for an AH are actually just asking for a vastly improved MW system that can only loosely be called an AH.

[vax]

The problem with market ward is when you want to sell anything. You put something on 10k and someone will see that and put it to 5k... At least doesn't happen with an AH.