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    The Switch port was and still is my bone of contention. I love mine and think it's one of the best consoles ever made for what it can do, but that's just it... For what it can do. For a mobile, handheld device it's exceedingly powerful. It however only really competes with the PS3 in terms of power and we already kicked /that/ ball and chain with the advent of Stormblood. The last thing I want to see is them devoting resources for a port only to then run into the same tired of excuses of 'well, the Switch cannot run this particular feature we want sooooo'. It's just the same tired song and dance from the PS3 era, right or wrong, and while all consoles can be limiting in certain ways I don't think being held back to quite the same level is a good place to go back to.

    That's not even getting into the issue of connectivity that Fhaerron brought up, which is another bone of contention for on the go play.

    As for the Xbox One port, I'd be fine with it but sadly that ball rests in Sony's court. If they refuse to play ball then frankly it's just never going to gain any traction. You can't have the player base stratified in an MMO like this and Sony has consistently been against cross platform play with their rivals.

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...ox-one-2949935 (Spec's for those interested. Keep in mind this article is comparing first generation Xbox One's and PS4's to the Switch, with their second iterations being magnitudes better.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    As for the Xbox One port, I'd be fine with it but sadly that ball rests in Sony's court. If they refuse to play ball then frankly it's just never going to gain any traction. You can't have the player base stratified in an MMO like this and Sony has consistently been against cross platform play with their rivals.
    Actually in this case the ball is firmly in Microsoft's court. Yoshi-P has come out repeatedly saying that they will not put the game on the Xbox unless Microsoft relaxes some of its requirements, such as the LIVE Gold account requirement and the "Xbox LIVE users will always be able to choose to play with ONLY other LIVE players" requirement. Yoshi-P will not split the playerbase, as that makes the whole exercise pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Actually in this case the ball is firmly in Microsoft's court.
    It's both. SE needs MS to drop live gold requirement, SE needs Sony to stop being greedy and allow crossplay with XB1.

    The first can happen with enough talks, the second so far seems unlikely, Sony has yet to make any exception to their anti cross play policy, and since they are currently dominating the console market they have more to lose if they allow crossplay.
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    Well, to be fair, the requirements set by Microsoft are not even justifiably fair on their own console users. In order for one person to play XIV on an Xbox One, the user would not only need to make an SE account with the Mogstation to pay their subscription fee, but they would need an Xbox LIVE Gold account as well. So, for example, the person would need to pay a $14.99 sub fee for a year and an additional $59.99 for a year with the Xbox LIVE Gold account, meanwhile, PC and PS4 players just pay the sub fee. Xbox users would be blatantly getting ripped off by the greed of Microsoft alone.

    With that kind of price tag involved, they'd be better off switching consoles or just playing on PC for XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    It's both. SE needs MS to drop live gold requirement, SE needs Sony to stop being greedy and allow crossplay with XB1.

    The first can happen with enough talks, the second so far seems unlikely, Sony has yet to make any exception to their anti cross play policy, and since they are currently dominating the console market they have more to lose if they allow crossplay.
    Until the dev's come out and say Sony is causing issues with them having cross-play, I am sticking with it being Microsoft's fault. I have yet to see them even mention Sony in regards to the cross-play issues, it's always been a Microsoft problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Until the dev's come out and say Sony is causing issues with them having cross-play, I am sticking with it being Microsoft's fault. I have yet to see them even mention Sony in regards to the cross-play issues, it's always been a Microsoft problem.
    SE is never gonna point fingers at Sony, I don't think you understand how close are SE and Sony, that's like throwing a friend under the bus. If you do a tiny bit of searching you'll see that Sony has already spoken publicly about why they don't allow crossplay with Xbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Until the dev's come out and say Sony is causing issues with them having cross-play, I am sticking with it being Microsoft's fault. I have yet to see them even mention Sony in regards to the cross-play issues, it's always been a Microsoft problem.
    They already have.

    Look at Fortnite and Rocket League. Google a bit to see what the developers said.

    Fortnite was, by far, the most humorous. Epic Games, very early in beta, "accidently" turned on crossplay between all consoles then said "oops" and turned it off 48 hours later.

    I'm gonna point out the obvious here...don't be a ****ing fanboy lol While I only have a PS4 and PC, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Sony is the one refusing to play ball based on what games work between PC and XBone (spoilers: most of them are not M$ first party games and do not require a Microsoft account.)

    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Lets say the ball is in Sony's court... you really think they would be like " Hey Mircosoft. I know last gen when we asked for crossplay and when you were top of your game you said no. BUT I'mma be a fair sport. Come lets allow crossplay with our systems and forgive and forget. forget I got over 70% of the console market cause you pissed all those people off at the start eh?" NOPE. I would love to see more people play but I don't see Sony doing it.. tho it wouldn't even get to sony since first Mircosoft has to get rid of the gold thing like Sony has. Otherwise it's always gonna be a no deal.

    Edit. LOL I just noticed the Irony of my post vs my ingame name LOL. Beautiful Sony...
    Edit edit. I would almost pay someone to be my partner in crime and name themselves Mirocsoft windows lol
    See, this person knows exactly what's going on and why Sony won't do it. And as others have pointed out...SE and Sony have been in bed together forever. I wonder if SE is still pissed at Nintendo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    They already have.

    Look at Fortnite and Rocket League. Google a bit to see what the developers said.

    Fortnite was, by far, the most humorous. Epic Games, very early in beta, "accidently" turned on crossplay between all consoles then said "oops" and turned it off 48 hours later.

    I'm gonna point out the obvious here...don't be a ****ing fanboy lol While I only have a PS4 and PC, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Sony is the one refusing to play ball based on what games work between PC and XBone (spoilers: most of them are not M$ first party games and do not require a Microsoft account.)
    Fortnite and Rocket League devs are not the XIV devs.
    I am not a fanboy, in fact, most of my work occurs at the Microsoft Campus in Redmond, so I love that title lol.

    I'm only saying that the only info we have to go off of regarding XIV and the Xbox, is from Yoshi-P, and he has repeatedly stated that it is a Microsoft policy preventing it, not a Sony one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I'm only saying that the only info we have to go off of regarding XIV and the Xbox, is from Yoshi-P, and he has repeatedly stated that it is a Microsoft policy preventing it, not a Sony one.
    Except everything Sony has mentioned about crossplay with Xbox applies to every single game, I haven't seen a single public statement from Sony where they are excluding SE titles when they speak against crossplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    See, this person knows exactly what's going on and why Sony won't do it. And as others have pointed out...SE and Sony have been in bed together forever. I wonder if SE is still pissed at Nintendo.
    Naw SE and Nintendo have become couple slowly, you know how you dump your EX but you know she attractive so you forgive her after a while.
    but they never really found XBox attractive.
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