Yoshi-P says discussions about FFXIV on Switch and Xbox One are "Positive"

[Lynart]

Until the dev's come out and say Sony is causing issues with them having cross-play, I am sticking with it being Microsoft's fault. I have yet to see them even mention Sony in regards to the cross-play issues, it's always been a Microsoft problem.

They already have.

Look at Fortnite and Rocket League. Google a bit to see what the developers said.

Fortnite was, by far, the most humorous. Epic Games, very early in beta, "accidently" turned on crossplay between all consoles then said "oops" and turned it off 48 hours later.

I'm gonna point out the obvious here...don't be a ****ing fanboy lol While I only have a PS4 and PC, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Sony is the one refusing to play ball based on what games work between PC and XBone (spoilers: most of them are not M$ first party games and do not require a Microsoft account.)

Lets say the ball is in Sony's court... you really think they would be like " Hey Mircosoft. I know last gen when we asked for crossplay and when you were top of your game you said no. BUT I'mma be a fair sport. Come lets allow crossplay with our systems and forgive and forget. forget I got over 70% of the console market cause you pissed all those people off at the start eh?" NOPE. I would love to see more people play but I don't see Sony doing it.. tho it wouldn't even get to sony since first Mircosoft has to get rid of the gold thing like Sony has. Otherwise it's always gonna be a no deal.

Edit. LOL I just noticed the Irony of my post vs my ingame name LOL. Beautiful Sony...
Edit edit. I would almost pay someone to be my partner in crime and name themselves Mirocsoft windows lol

See, this person knows exactly what's going on and why Sony won't do it. And as others have pointed out...SE and Sony have been in bed together forever. I wonder if SE is still pissed at Nintendo.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They already have.

Look at Fortnite and Rocket League. Google a bit to see what the developers said.

Fortnite was, by far, the most humorous. Epic Games, very early in beta, "accidently" turned on crossplay between all consoles then said "oops" and turned it off 48 hours later.

I'm gonna point out the obvious here...don't be a ****ing fanboy lol While I only have a PS4 and PC, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Sony is the one refusing to play ball based on what games work between PC and XBone (spoilers: most of them are not M$ first party games and do not require a Microsoft account.)

Fortnite and Rocket League devs are not the XIV devs.
I am not a fanboy, in fact, most of my work occurs at the Microsoft Campus in Redmond, so I love that title lol.

I'm only saying that the only info we have to go off of regarding XIV and the Xbox, is from Yoshi-P, and he has repeatedly stated that it is a Microsoft policy preventing it, not a Sony one.

[ShadowHunterrX]

And as others have pointed out...SE and Sony have been in bed together forever. I wonder if SE is still pissed at Nintendo.

Ok ? Are we back in 1996 ? SE isnt pissed at Nintendo for along time anymore. They released the most games on the Switch after Nintendo and 3 more games coming this year alone.

Nintendo is most open with Crossplay. Even sometimes in scary ways, you can get Xbox achievements for Minecraft on the Switch for example. Also PS4/VITA/SWITCH crossplay PSO2 and dont forget Dragonquest XI which is also crossplay with the PS4 and Switch. Not that I see FFXIV coming to the switch because of the size of the game.

[alimdia]

I'm only saying that the only info we have to go off of regarding XIV and the Xbox, is from Yoshi-P, and he has repeatedly stated that it is a Microsoft policy preventing it, not a Sony one.

Except everything Sony has mentioned about crossplay with Xbox applies to every single game, I haven't seen a single public statement from Sony where they are excluding SE titles when they speak against crossplay.

[Paladinleeds]

Except everything Sony has mentioned about crossplay with Xbox applies to every single game, I haven't seen a single public statement from Sony where they are excluding SE titles when they speak against crossplay.

As far as I know, so long as you just use your own servers to host the game servers (and not use Sony's servers, except for maybe authentication), Sony don't mind (or at the very least won't actively hinder it). It's Microsoft demanding their own servers for players on top of the shared servers and demanding the Xbox users pay for Xbox Live Gold on top of the FFXIV subscription. So I would say the problem is very much in Microsoft's end. And I speak as someone with a Windows Phone, Windows 10 PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Microsoft Band, Windows Mixed Reality, etc (but no PS3/4), so I clearly aren't a Sony fanboy.

[Maero]

As far as I know, so long as you just use your own servers to host the game servers (and not use Sony's servers, except for maybe authentication), Sony don't mind (or at the very least won't actively hinder it). It's Microsoft demanding their own servers for players on top of the shared servers and demanding the Xbox users pay for Xbox Live Gold on top of the FFXIV subscription. So I would say the problem is very much in Microsoft's end. And I speak as someone with a Windows Phone, Windows 10 PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Microsoft Band, Windows Mixed Reality, etc (but no PS3/4), so I clearly aren't a Sony fanboy.

Hooray someone that actually knows what they are talking about in this thread

[ko_]

As far as I know, so long as you just use your own servers to host the game servers (and not use Sony's servers, except for maybe authentication), Sony don't mind (or at the very least won't actively hinder it). It's Microsoft demanding their own servers for players on top of the shared servers and demanding the Xbox users pay for Xbox Live Gold on top of the FFXIV subscription. So I would say the problem is very much in Microsoft's end. And I speak as someone with a Windows Phone, Windows 10 PC, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Microsoft Band, Windows Mixed Reality, etc (but no PS3/4), so I clearly aren't a Sony fanboy.

That's pretty much what I meant. I know you weren't replying to me. But I'm agreeing with your post. Mine was only highlighting that I don't see it getting PAST this step to even get to sony. And I don't think it'll matter at that point anyway. So agreed.

[RubenSnizzle]

No switch. We just got rid of the PS3 not even a year ago, why would we want another one? Switch struggle so much, it can only run skyrim vanilla, not to mention the memory chips are expensive as fuh and seeing how ff14 is over 67.5gigs just on ps4, i really don't know what they could do to make it smaller and im not sure why they would want those limitation back in.

As for MS, what has been said has been said, the issue is MS here. Not really sure why they're being greedy like that (i know why, but im trying to keep fanboy comment out), having an influx of new players would be great for smaller servers though.

[Mysticales]

Only way switch could happen is if it was through a cloud streaming service. Which is something Xbox wants to start doing as well anyways. This would remove the limitations issue of the hardware itself.

[Lynde]

Only way switch could happen is if it was through a cloud streaming service. Which is something Xbox wants to start doing as well anyways. This would remove the limitations issue of the hardware itself.

Yes, this exactly. It's the only reason the Switch is on PSO2. That game is also the size of FF14 if not bigger so they used the cloud service. It's still having hiccups in general, so I'd probably assume they'd try to get some of the kinks worked out first before attempting to bring another game like FF14 to the Switch via the cloud service. (And yes I know PSO2 is Sega and not SE, but it's still based in Japan)