Whats going on with SE ?

[Okamimaru]

What's crazy to me is people who have been playing this game for years are not happy with it... but instead of actually quitting and playing something else they demand that ff14 changes it's formula to suit their tastes... THIS IS FF14... not wow, eso, nambla or whatever you want this game to copy...

[kikix12]

What's crazy to me is people who have been playing this game for years are not happy with it... but instead of actually quitting and playing something else they demand that ff14 changes it's formula to suit their tastes... THIS IS FF14... not wow, eso, nambla or whatever you want this game to copy...

The app was not here "for years". The oversimplification of things was a gradual thing as well.

If they continued to expand on what Final Fantasy XIV was without changing stuff up, some people would complain that doing the same thing over and over is boring...but that's about all you'd get to see in the field of complaints. But they are changing things...but choosing the changes that usually bring large outrage from the vocal parts of the communities in games that do it (oversimplification in an RPG game, grind in casual games, time-consuming content in a game aimed at casuals with little time to play at one go and so on). That being said, these complaints will continue.

As to why people don't leave...there are multiple reasons for that.
1) The pros still outweigh the cons. There is no ideal game, so some problems are expected. So long as you are going to have more fun than not when playing, why not continue?! That doesn't mean that you cannot be vocal about what you do dislike.
2) People have made investments...and people tend to hold onto what they invested into with a passion. That's why there are so many toxic couples that continue to be with each other for years or even decades, that's why there are people that use cars that are falling apart even if their repairs cost them more than buying a different car, used but in good state etc.
3) Some care most about the community aspect. I know of people that kept logging into various MMO's for a long while onto to talk with other players. Hardly ever doing any content...Those people may still complain about the game, but they are held by the one thing that the content is not relevant for.

I'm sure there are other reasons, but these three above are most common.

[Vstarstruck]

The app was not here "for years". The oversimplification of things was a gradual thing as well.

If they continued to expand on what Final Fantasy XIV was without changing stuff up, some people would complain that doing the same thing over and over is boring...but that's about all you'd get to see in the field of complaints. But they are changing things...but choosing the changes that usually bring large outrage from the vocal parts of the communities in games that do it (oversimplification in an RPG game, grind in casual games, time-consuming content in a game aimed at casuals with little time to play at one go and so on). That being said, these complaints will continue.

As to why people don't leave...there are multiple reasons for that.
1) The pros still outweigh the cons. There is no ideal game, so some problems are expected. So long as you are going to have more fun than not when playing, why not continue?! That doesn't mean that you cannot be vocal about what you do dislike.
2) People have made investments...and people tend to hold onto what they invested into with a passion. That's why there are so many toxic couples that continue to be with each other for years or even decades, that's why there are people that use cars that are falling apart even if their repairs cost them more than buying a different car, used but in good state etc.
3) Some care most about the community aspect. I know of people that kept logging into various MMO's for a long while onto to talk with other players. Hardly ever doing any content...Those people may still complain about the game, but they are held by the one thing that the content is not relevant for.

I'm sure there are other reasons, but these three above are most common.

trust me i want to return, i liked what SE (more so squaresoft) what was given to me. I want them to achieve greatness. That will never happen if your target audience i blind fans that pay anything you charge. Then your game is just there, not great, maybe not at the bottom, just average, just there for something to do.

But ya sunken cost fallacy is real, esp what you have to do to get a house. Then it is I do x or y because x or y is good with my friends, so why quit?

While I understand the concerns over the app and direction it hints at I have no problem whatsoever with the content cycles... it\\\\'s predictable yes... which is kinda good for people who take breaks (harder to get lost)... it\\\\'s how this game is set up... they expect people to take breaks and designed the game in a way that doesn\\\\'t really penalize you for it... this game does try new things (heavens on high isn\\\\'t a reskinned clone of potd)... Eureka had a mixed reception but they did try something different... they try new stuff... some goes well some goes horribly bad (Lord of Verminion I\\\\'m looking at you)... I\\\\'m really not sure what people want when they say innovative especially when they just really want a ffxi or wow clone

SE does not know either apparently. Empty content zone with fate running is innovative I guess. You blind fandboyisms is not helping the game improve, you are doing more damage then helping, like that nonsense thread you made. This is the first time I seen someone try to explain being predictable is a good thing, no it isn't.