Please let us buy gil since it's not pay to win.

[Reinha]

Why not lamblast the fact that every character boost is automatically given 600,000 gil worth of allagan platinum pieces?

Shouldn't happen and neither should character boosts of any kind. I have been saying it since the boosts were announced. Not because they offer any real advantage over other players but because they invite a crowd of players who are willing to throw money at the company to get past an inconvenient part of a game for the sake of instant gratification.

My biggest beef with the FFXIV community is the sheer bias and acceptance of some skeptical issues, but the outright disapproval of others. We got people say some things are ok, and other things are not, but without any defined logic. And without a solid understanding of what should be right and what should be wrong--square enix will constantly push the envelope. And that's worrysome

The community isn't a hive mind. A crowd this big will never appear to have a consistent opinion on anything because people step in and out of discussions (and the game) every day and the people commenting today are different from the ones commenting yesterday. Edit: People may also not know about some things and you can't expect them to have an opinion about something they are not aware of.

Unfortunately it also seems like a big part of the community is fine with sacrificing an in game free market, where prices are only affected by supply and demand of items, for the convenience of being able to obtain gil whenever. I opened this thread thinking it was sarcastic but it seems to be a compilation of requests to make both the investment of leveling crafting and gathering jobs and the process of earning gil completely meaningless. There is not much point in trying to convince people of right and wrong if the only thing they want to do is open their wallets to get past actually playing the game to obtain what they are after, because that is the kind of customer Square will want to listen no matter how loudly the rest of us are against it.

[Rinuko]

Why not lamblast the fact that every character boost is automatically given 600,000 gil worth of allagan platinum pieces?

It's 300,000 gil. You can only get 600,000 gil if you level and msq skip.

[CatStarPrime]

We kinder already have RMT, Hmm.. makes me curious the class skip gives allagan worth 300k total, I know you probably can't re-use the books but I doubt mog station will stop from buying another in a separate purchase & don't have use book for the allagan pieces to appear in your inventory.

I found out by accident, the Mogstation does not, in fact, prevent you from purchasing a job boost again, for a job you've already boosted.

So you get the Job Book, the Gear Chest, and the Coin, in your inventory again. Discard the Book. Do what seems best with the gear. And convert the Coin.

Thus we can, technically, buy Gil (as has been said) at the rate of 300,000 for $25 USD - 12,000G/$.

At least, it was possible about 4 weeks back.

[JackHatchet]

I don't get why everyone ignored the boost gil, but hate selling gil.

[Mythrilfort]

I would like to see the veteran vendor to be expanded since this is our "game time" currency. It wouldnt inflate the mogstation purcheases if they where to add 1x time purcheses like: phial of fantasia, dies, just do it like 5x or just 3x of one colour. Past event items could be moved there to. First people pay for the subscription and sometimes due to real life situations however people cant do the events, would be fair. Even if its just a little they would add even that would make things more fair for those which absolutely cannot purchease anything from the mogstation. Plus screw the app rent a retainer direct from the mogstation you get 2 in one prize of a month to the app condition its a rip off unless theyll rise the mogstation prize. That would be upsetting though else however people gonna do whats right for them, nothing really can be done about. But buying gil from the mogstation would help the rmt a bit for sure.

[ServerCollaps]

I wish we could buy sub with gil

[Liam_Harper]

Game time tokens like Warcraft does is the perfect gil sink. Those who have gil can buy them, and those who feel they can't earn gil can just spend real-life American dollars. Chances are anyone who can't get lots of gil is someone who works a lot of hours anyways, so they'd probably appreciate being able to have gil for glamours and other fun things despite working so many hours all the time. It's win win.

Warcraft tokens don't sink gil. The gil merely passes from one player to another.

Warcraft gil sinks are more like their Black Market Auction house, where players can bid for discontinued or extremely rare items, or the Mad Merchant npc who sells a few exclusive items at an extremely high price. The BMAH can sink an entire currency cap in one go (equivilant of a billion gil here) for certain items. That money is then removed from the economy forever.

To be fair, ffxiv isn't in dire need of gil sinks. The game itself doesn't pump much gil into its economy on a daily basis. A considerable amount is siphoned off through marketboard fees too.

[Remedi]

I respectfully disagree, challenge log and DR injects a generous amounts of money in the game for basically no real effort, but beside that you can easily tackle this game as a single player and never ever need to spend money to other ppl prices, also eventually they removed some aspects of gil sinks from the game, with dark matter beign avaible from GC seals and the increased durability from self-repair and let's not forget glamour prisms now just beign sold for GC seals, even the custom delivery are essentially a money gain.
This will eventually add up and cause problems (though some already happened)

[Okamimaru]

Fine let's sell gil... I really don't care anymore... let's sell mogshop items on the MB... let's buy gametime with gil... the day they implement such STUPID ideas is the day I move on to other things... I've watched games rot from the inside from this kind of thing... if you think SE would ever implement a system like this and not completely screw it up you haven't paid any attention...

[Rokke]

Fine let's sell gil... I really don't care anymore... let's sell mogshop items on the MB... let's buy gametime with gil... the day they implement such STUPID ideas is the day I move on to other things... I've watched games rot from the inside from this kind of thing... if you think SE would ever implement a system like this and not completely screw it up you haven't paid any attention...

Simply put: no competition= no winning= no pay to win... if you could pk other players, or had guild wars, or if hunts dropped ultra rare items that only the person who did the most damage got and the BiS gears came from the mogstation... that's pay to win... gil only lets you save time... it's a convenience...

you obviously DON'T know what pay to win is... what exactly did you "win"? You got gil... I got gil too... what advantage did you gain over me? You paid real money to have a chance at making in game money... seems like I am the bigger winner... I only paid my sub while you threw money at SE for literally NO advantage other than saving time... I pay to play you apparently pay to not play... if wasting real money is how you define winning I'll stay a happy loser...

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