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  1. #11
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Levelling is super easy, you don't need the MSQ to do it.
    It's never been easier, in fact. Exp rains down on you.
    I went from 30 DRK to 50 DRK in a little over a week just doing the solosquad dungeons, for example. A single run of the highest one available to you up to level 50 will net slightly more than one full level's worth of xp. This is only something you can do on a character who has already completed a bunch of content on another job. Just one of many ways that exp is far faster with am experienced character than with an alt.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 04-21-2018 at 09:38 AM.

  2. #12
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    Stoutale's Avatar
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    Shilo Huzzah
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    Old school mmos relied on people grinding for the sake of leveling (via mob farming and dungeons), not story quests, to level.
    Great write up, solid information but understand everything in this game is a grind. Find this, kill that, it’s a MMO it’s what they do. Also you are full of knowledge, but you are one pompous arse! I was simply asking for more reasons because “using the same gear” simply doesn’t matter in a lot of cases. You are the type person that will gladly give very good information all the while belittling someone because of how you perceive they mean something on a forum. Your information would be just as helpful without your quips taken at people.
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  3. #13
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Someone is being a "pompous arse" and it isn't Squintina. I would suggesting reading your post with an eye to hoe you come across as doing the very thing you say they are.
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stoutale View Post
    Great write up, solid information but understand everything in this game is a grind. Find this, kill that, it’s a MMO it’s what they do. Also you are full of knowledge, but you are one pompous arse! I was simply asking for more reasons because “using the same gear” simply doesn’t matter in a lot of cases. You are the type person that will gladly give very good information all the while belittling someone because of how you perceive they mean something on a forum. Your information would be just as helpful without your quips taken at people.
    You're right, I could and should have been nicer about it.
    I'm usually much nicer, maybe it's because work has been hectic this week (not that that's an excuse to take it out online).

    I apologize.
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    Stoutale's Avatar
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    Shilo Huzzah
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 45
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    One thing you sound like you're not aware of is that there isn't multiple sets of gear to gear jobs differently with in terms of function. I.e. You will always want to choose the highest level piece of gear. Glamour exists for the reason you give, and even with glamour there are more benefits to sticking with one character rather than an alt. E.g. You only have to farm up your various glamour items once instead of for each alt you might want to use them on, mogstation glamours are mostly only for a single character so you only have to pay RL money for them once, you can't share the glamour dresser across characters

    Clearly I don’t/didn’t understand it that’s why I asked. That said I still don’t understand because their is different sets of gear or we mean different things. Clearly a tank isn’t tanking in healer robes, right? I don’t mean to sound bad but when you said I don’t understand there isn’t different gear sets I am more confused
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    Shilo Huzzah
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    You're right, I could and should have been nicer about it.
    I'm usually much nicer, maybe it's because work has been hectic this week (not that that's an excuse to take it out online).

    I apologize.
    I expected flames, this was cool and thank you. Again your knowledge is clearly there and I learned a lot of why people do what they do because of it. Thank you.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    High level gear usually falls into 7 sets(casting, healing, fending, aiming, scouting, striking, maiming) that the 15 classes are split up into. But just because 2+ classes share a set doesnt mean that they arent different. Black mage and red mage are both magic dps classes. They can share most(~95%) equipment. They dont play alike. Black mage is built around getting into the offensive stance and pushing out as much damage as possible as fast as possible, then switching to a regen stance to build your strength back up. They have several "long" cast spells that they use via hard-cast regularly, and usually have to stand still to get a spell off. They have no unique party utility spells. Their most important stat is speed(faster casts means more damage and more chances to move without interruption, they already have very hard hitting spells so crit/direct is a secondary concern). Red mage is built around balancing two mana pools, balancing melee combos versus big spells, balancing quick spells with long spells via class skills, and balancing damage and utility abilities. They want to use a quick spell to trigger an instant cast for a longer harder hitting spell to follow, and since every other spell should be instant they have a lot of chances to move and still finish a cast. At high levels they can heal, res, and buff comrades giving them many utility spells(instant resing with the only limit being their mana pool is very handy when trying new content). Their least important stat is speed(instant doesnt get faster via a speed boost, and their spells are a little weaker so they want the direct/crit boost much more).

    Hopefully this makes more sense.
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  8. #18
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    K'ree Sakuhara
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    Sophia
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Personally for me there are so many things to collect glamour, mounts, minions, cards and music scrolls it's much easier to have more if your only collecting for one character.
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  9. #19
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    There are definitely more than 2 chars allowed with the basic sub. I have 4 right now and am allowed up to 8. You can just not have more than one on a single world.

    Anyway, it’s definitly faster to level an alt job on a single character hands down no contest. Going through the msq multiple times is quite slow. For me, just continuing to do the highest level dungeon I can get into on a job seems pretty quick. Plus it’s just way more convenient not to have to do other things multiple times, like leveling beast tribes or leveling crafter gatherer classes if your into that.

    Like I said, I have multiple chars, but it’s cerainly not for comvienence. It’s just because I want to be able to play as more than once race/look without going broke buying tons of fantasta every few days. If my character look was less important to me I’d sure save a ton of time.
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    Last edited by Tempest222; 04-22-2018 at 04:19 AM.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    There are definitely more than 2 chars allowed with the basic sub. I have 4 right now and am allowed up to 8. You can just not have more than one on a single world.
    This. Even on the free trial you're allowed to create those eight characters.



    On the main discussion, it's overall more effective to keep everything on one character (shared equipment, money, luck with item drops, long-term achievements, mentor status requiring 1000 dungeon/trial runs completed) but from a character-building perspective I don't really like that my character has had to do a lot of classes that don't really fit her personality.

    I'm playing through the story a second time with an alt, and this time I'm just focusing on a couple of classes that I do think suit that character.

    I also just like having multiple characters - or rather, I've invented multiple characters so I want to play as all of them. I just wish the game made it easier to link up their achievements.
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