The latest illicit activity report now specifically mentions bans for botting.

[Vstarstruck]

I don't think it would be unreasonable to place harsher restrictions on the transfer of gil to a FC chest

What limits? The trade restrictions is bad enough in being annoying for real players (not enough item slots, many items take more then 5 materials, and if your starting from raw, some may take 10-15 different items, i think I seen an 18 item trade before to make 1 item, so 4 trades.. I mean I know it is not a big deal, but at the same time, it is a conflict of concepts. Do not make items that require that much items if you can't have enough slots in trade/ mail, just proves your system can't handle the item count you give to make things.)

while people do make multi-million gil sales though trades and fc despots is the only way not to have to make 20-50 trades for no reason. It does not stop RMT, all it does is hinder legit players. Plus having to make that many trades increases the risk of being ripped off, this is why you set something up like X amount upfront in fc chest, then trade item for 1 M, then despot the rest in fc chest, to minimize the loss encase of rip off intent for both sides.

Needing to make muti- trades to transfer the correct gil for a high value item does increase the risk of scam though. Being able do it though FC chest greatly lowers such risk, and you want to restrict that too? for what? It will not harm bots in anyway, they will still RMT while real player is like... ok now what?

[XenoCranel]

tfw when you see a 69 gatherer dismount 50 feet from the ground and float down every time they gather lulz. Marry Poppins

[KageTokage]

tfw when you see a 69 gatherer dismount 50 feet from the ground and float down every time they gather lulz. Marry Poppins

I think that's just a lag issue, since I've seen it happening to people who were landing for a hunt mark, too.

I'm pretty sure bots can queue up DoH/L actions faster then actual players can, though.

[XenoCranel]

I think that's just a lag issue, since I've seen it happening to people who were landing for a hunt mark, too.

I'm pretty sure bots can queue up DoH/L actions faster then actual players can, though.

Seen that toon there since 7 hours ago doing the same thing lol.

[KisaiTenshi]

They can separate the illicit activity into as many categories as they want, but that still won't mean they're doing anything about the hordes of low level characters blatantly landing right on top of npcs for story quest progression and then watching them jump down below the floor or literally watching them fly through the air to their next destination, among other things they're seen doing. Grand companies are a revolving door for that mess and it's so painfully obvious what's going on since some of those npcs are behind a desk area that we normally can't even access.

Case in point, I can find 24 bots on Excalibur (only 72 players online), all button-mash style names, all in the same place, all dropping through the map.


(Redacted names, even though there's no point, I've already reported them)

Considering that "free trial" accounts are supposedly capped at level 35 and all these bots are level 36-38 right now, that means SOMEONE is paying for them.

[miraidensetsu]

C'mon, guys. No more limits because the bots. No botter will give up because S-E changed the currency and took out Gil value yet again.

What S-E needs to do is:

1. Ban the bots. Really. 12? Are you kidding me? That's too few. We need at least 12 THOUSAND accounts banned for botting. That to begin cleaning up.

2. Look at the players reports to ban even more bots. Not only 1 sacrifice for each eorzean god.

3. Work at the server and client security. It is obvious that is not safe enough. Botting happens because the client lets a third-party proccess to mess up with their data. That shouldn't happen. They could create some system that recognize legit packets. If the packet wasn't originated by a proper client, BAN. It can potentially lock parsers out the game, but parsing is against ToS anyways.

[Mwynn]

3. It can potentially lock parsers out the game, but parsing is against ToS anyways.

If that happened, we had no Raiding Scene in FFXIV anymore, probably a few thousands that never will clear Savage.
Tons of Raiders not playing anymore results into a loose of Money, which SE is sure not thinking twice about it.

They could create some system that recognize legit packets. If the packet wasn't originated by a proper client, BAN.

You can't make a difference of manipulated Packets vs "Legit Packets", a Bot simply makes use of the Packets like a Player does in the end.
This begins with Keystrokes and ends with automatic responses and everything they can.

Let alone, as you said in your Post, the Client has not even a proper Detection, to make a difference out of those.
Even if it had one, it would probably take a Week if not even lesser to have a work-around for that Detection, and the next time it might be even faster if SE would use the same method.

I'm just being realistic, what's the possibility they start banning Bots? Since now it hardly happened plus not to forget, each Real Bot Player and not RMT Bots, are Real Customers like you and me.
Be surprised, some of them even make use of the Mog Station for Glamour or Mounts.

The only Bots that actually hurt Square Enix in terms of Business are the RMT Bots running on Credit Card Frauded Registration Codes, they will never extend their Gametime aswell.
How so? In 2-3 Weeks of their Lifespan, they get banned anyway, so they just repeat the Cycle and use the 30 Free Days they get.

There is no Point to even mention the RMT Bots (The Players stacking all together in front of a NPC and jumping to the next one, having a gibberish Name).
If you consider how fast one Player gets banned due of Chargeback or any Bank Issues, this Process of banning RMT Bots is likely automated on SE's Side.

[NanaWiloh]

Case in point, I can find 24 bots on Excalibur (only 72 players online), all button-mash style names, all in the same place, all dropping through the map.


(Redacted names, even though there's no point, I've already reported them)

Considering that "free trial" accounts are supposedly capped at level 35 and all these bots are level 36-38 right now, that means SOMEONE is paying for them.

Player search just for the recorded does not list every single player that is online currently.

[KisaiTenshi]

Player search just for the recorded does not list every single player that is online currently.

That is because it doesn't show players in duties and caps at 200. Because the bots simply teleport everywhere, you only notice them if you're trying to do the quests they are.



Case in point. Those stupid bots wrecked my video recordings over and over.

[XenoCranel]

If that happened, we had no Raiding Scene in FFXIV anymore, probably a few thousands that never will clear Savage.
Tons of Raiders not playing anymore results into a loose of Money, which SE is sure not thinking twice about it.

Savage is so easy though