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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    Hey now. Just because I go in on a job that barely makes it over the ilvl for gear doesn't mean I will be doing poorly. I might not be the best tank or DPS ever but I actively strive to be a positive contribution that doesn't bring down or wipe the team. If I meet the requirements to get in and work to earn my place in the team, why is that somehow a bad thing that makes me worse and more selfish than a Japanese player? There will always be lazy leeches that just go in to spam a skill and roll on loot but most players at least make a token effort. I can see expecting people to bring their mains on release week but after people get used to mechanics and the average ilvl starts to go up, bring whatever you want as long as you'll make an honest try at clearing the instance. The Japanese way of approaching PUG content isn't the inherently better way. It's just different.
    You are in a thread where the vast majority of the people talking are concerned about the new system lowering their chances of getting loot. And that's pretty much all they are concerned about. Some are so passionate about it that they are threatening to unsubscribe. On the other side of the coin, you can count on one hand the number of people who said "I'm glad because I'll now be able to play with the job I'm the most comfortable with and be better for me and my teammates". That very thread is a live proof of what I'm saying. If you want another one, just look at how the two communities play and gave their feedback on Eureka. Have fun with that one.

    Anyway, I never said that how JP players are approaching content is better like you said at the end of your paragraph. If you felt that my descriptions did not picture us in a "good way" and felt offended, that's on you. And I don't care about what you do, I'm just speaking about objective cultural differences on a bigger scale than just an individual taking the time to post on the official forums. This stuff has been known for ages. Our issues aren't theirs. At least when it comes to that stuff.

    Edit: Oh and speaking about cultural differences and how that impact gameplay for different communities is not "weeaboo speaketh". Nice flame attempt, but you're just being ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    I don't know what it's like to play on JP servers but if the Greed Only bit is because of players' self-imposed constraints rather than technical ones, then MAYBE SE should look at the wider audience before making changes like this. It's going to take forever and a day to get loot now regardless of what I play. GG SE, you're finding ways to make the content I consider worth subbing for more frustrating and grindtastic. It's not like someone's sitting in a room and plotting to personally annoy the crap out of me but I can't fathom why SE is doing what it's doing lately. I'm not a happy customer.
    Someone wanted an explanation about the reason why they'd do that change. A lot of people in this thread actually didn't have a clue. I'm just shining light on the obvious.
    I'm not saying if SE should or shouldn't see their playerbase with a bigger scope, simply because I don't care about that discussion. If you want to talk to someone about how you think that you matter more than JP players in your eyes, I'm not the guy you should quote or argue with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    How does the new system help eliminate the latter? If a tank chestpiece drops, whats stopping the BLM main that spends most of a fight dead from rolling higher than the DRK main thats actually playing tank?
    It doesn't help, and it doesn't matter as it was not the intent with that change. Why? Because, again, that's not a change for us, that's a change for JP players. And they don't have that issue. I'm wondering if you understood my post.
    I'll do a tl;dr just for you: this change is meant to fix an issue the JP community has when it comes to gearing their alts. The kind of players you described are a rare exception for them, but not so much in US/EU. That's it. That's all I'm saying.

    Is it good? Is it bad? I don't care. I'm just explaining the reason why they came up with that change in the first place.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 04-20-2018 at 12:15 PM.