


and you're telling me the casual player are the player with skill, the elite and those have skill in gaming ? cool storyJust to add:
Hardcore players want to lock out others from content and rewards so they feel they are better than others, and their sad little lives feel less empty.
Unlike gaming in general, a hardcore MMO player is nothing but a guy who has a ton of free time. Skill has no part in it.



Casual Player - Plays for a limited amount of time, either through necessity or choice.
Hardcore Player - Plays for a great deal of time in one setting, and often.
Neither is inherently more skillful. Nor does one indicate a desire for harder content and the other for easier, in spite of what dipsh*ts on the board might claim. One merely has more time than the other. Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't think hardcore players necessarily have more skill than casual players. Anyone can take a few minutes to read up on a class's common strategies/macros and put them to use immediately without much practice (although it's fair to say that it was probably hardcore players who came up with these ideas first).
(original by GalvatronZero)
QFT ^I don't think hardcore players necessarily have more skill than casual players. Anyone can take a few minutes to read up on a class's common strategies/macros and put them to use immediately without much practice (although it's fair to say that it was probably hardcore players who came up with these ideas first).
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this thread again..
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I was being sarcastic. People like to claim XI was a hardcore game because things "took a long time."lol what you define as hardcore sounds like casual as well, i mean is real content using the game as a aol chat room? no it's playing and always having something to kill even if it's grindy. people play mmo's for different reasons and enjoy different types of styles of gameplay. it's just preferences and ..again time ..
you can have lots of time to play or be very skllled, but you can't suck and have no time to invest. that is for endgame. but reality is the grind/journey though don't take a brainsurgen is a very important part of all of it. you should have time for both if you chose to play mmo's. if they keep changing this mechanic then they are no longer mmo's.
But must of that time was spent standing in place chatting. Usually waiting for some mob that was easy to kill but had high respawns and low drop rates.
Even leveling wasn't hard, but that's usually the go to example here. You just stood in place and auto attacked. Or casted cure for people with yellow health, or used provoke every 30 seconds.
Real hardcore players play games that require skill, not MMOs. MMOs require only free time and an attention span.


believe it or not there are several threads with 100's of post on this topic

Can we just come together as one collective of nerds and stop this stupid Gangs of New York fighting? GAWD... Vote for Pedro!
Robert Downey Jr said it best...
"I'm The Dude Playing the Dude Disguised as Another Dude"
It's an MMO, let people be whoever they want to be.



Hardcore = People who want an In depth Complex Experience that takes Time, Effort and Skill.
Casual = People who want a game they can pick up and play on a whim.



Final Fantasy has always been a game of preparation not action. The skill of a Final Fantasy game is in the knowledge of Character development not the fight itself. That is why in every Final Fantasy a fight is either a: Impossible or b: Easy. If it is impossible you were not ready. If it was easy you were. All MMOs fall into this style of game play. A person who knows what they are in for will win. That is why Raids, in every MMO, are only difficult until someone beats them, then they are easy.
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