Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
lol what you define as hardcore sounds like casual as well, i mean is real content using the game as a aol chat room? no it's playing and always having something to kill even if it's grindy. people play mmo's for different reasons and enjoy different types of styles of gameplay. it's just preferences and ..again time ..

you can have lots of time to play or be very skllled, but you can't suck and have no time to invest. that is for endgame. but reality is the grind/journey though don't take a brainsurgen is a very important part of all of it. you should have time for both if you chose to play mmo's. if they keep changing this mechanic then they are no longer mmo's.
I was being sarcastic. People like to claim XI was a hardcore game because things "took a long time."

But must of that time was spent standing in place chatting. Usually waiting for some mob that was easy to kill but had high respawns and low drop rates.

Even leveling wasn't hard, but that's usually the go to example here. You just stood in place and auto attacked. Or casted cure for people with yellow health, or used provoke every 30 seconds.

Real hardcore players play games that require skill, not MMOs. MMOs require only free time and an attention span.