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  1. #41
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    EnaChleo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2;4650659
    Lack of motivation to play an MMO is not generally caused by the game play itself.

    Frankly my motivation comes and goe, but a BIG part of it is what feel like at any given day, month or week.

    Leveling a new class, making a new glamour, trying to grind out a mount or two, friends. I just go at my own pace and never had issues.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubblegum01 View Post
    Reason 1, the formula in the game never changes.
    This is the sole reason why I quit. This game is so damn stale when it comes to content because the same pattern.
    You can literally predict the next content patch. Another thing, when they try to churn the wheel, it's a bust.
    Almost Every. Single. Time. Diadem and Eureka are prime examples. Also, they keep shoving fates down our throats before
    we throw up. I just wish they could make better things for people to enjoy. Does anyone even still actively do Triple Triad?
    Where is our Blitzball? I dunno, they are too focused on milking peoples banks to release content that doesn't die in a day or two.
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  3. #43
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    OH PLEASE! Like ppl won't complain when blitzball will be implemented calling it shallow, unimaginative or boring.
    As if it wasn't on FFX already
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    OH PLEASE! Like ppl won't complain when blitzball will be implemented calling it shallow, unimaginative or boring.
    As if it wasn't on FFX already
    Not if they implement Blitzball correctly!
    We could host like a real game, make teams and root people on for whatever side, and even bid on the winning team or something.
    Would bring some E-sports(?).
    I don't like BB either but some do and with that idea it could being people together.
    It seems fun on paper anyway but that too, would probably be short-lived lol.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    Not if they implement Blitzball correctly!
    We could host like a real game, make teams and root people on for whatever side, and even bid on the winning team or something.
    Would bring some E-sports(?).
    I don't like BB either but some do and with that idea it could being people together.
    It seems fun on paper anyway but that too, would probably be short-lived lol.
    Sadly, even with all the talk of trying to tune the game so it won't be dead after a couple days, I really don't think there's anything the design team can do to prevent that being the case.

    Also, no matter how good the content is, you can bet on people complaining about it. That's just how things work
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  6. #46
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    Yeah I understand. I would've unsubbed a long time ago too if I never bothered to learn and get good at the game the entire time I've been playing.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubblegum01 View Post
    At this time I was playing as a redmage, a DPS. The queue time were slow and I had to wait a long time (I can’t exactly say how long but definitely more than 10+ minutes) for each queue. This further killed my motivation to play the game and farm the new tomes. Which means my ilevel didn’t get an upgrade. Which led to me unable to enter new dungeons/raids because my ilevel is too low.
    This is not unique to XIV at all. Not even remotely. In every mmorpg that has the trinity of tank/healer/dps in order to do content, for most content dps have the longest queues because a massive chunk of players, for several reasons, do not want to tank or heal. It hasn't got to do with those roles not being fun, it often has a lot to do with players not wanting the responsibility that comes with those roles. And well for some people they just prefer playing as dps.

    If you can't deal with dps queue times then I suggest you stay away from any mmos that have a trinity system for their group content. Or play a tank or healer.

    Also you think 10+ minutes is too long? I consider a 10 - 15 minute queue to be pretty fast for a dps. I'd be more sympathetic if your queue times were always 30+ minutes.

    Not trying to invalidate your entire post, but I do think your criticism of dps queue times is a bit silly.
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  8. #48
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    Inglis Eucus
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    I might be unsubscribe soon. Seems like every expansion they add keeps getting smaller and smaller. Right now game is very boring and I keep seeing friends unsubscribing from lack of content. If wasn't for owning a private house I would have already unsubscribed till the next patch comes out.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubblegum01 View Post
    Reason 3, other contents other than the mainstream contents has low population of players.
    When I say mainstream contents I meant contents that were released with the current patch or the latest the previous patch. Every other content other than those contents have low population and longer queue time, especially as a DPS. So I decided to play level up a tank and a healer to get faster queue time. However, spamming the same dungeons over and over again burnt me out relatively fast so I did not manage to level up tank and healer to level 70. Doing deep dungeons repetitively also burnt me out. The same goes with fate. Everything (SB levelling dungeons and deep dungeon) is so repetitive and sometimes queue time is so long even when I go as a tank or healer.

    I wanted to try Diadem. But it was dead as a door nail.
    I had to leave the game twice after major patches, once after Alexander was released, and when I came back those raids were completely abandoned, along with Diadem (which I never got to try.) The second time I left, I had already did the SB MSQ but due to medical emergencies I had paid for 6 months in advance but didn't play for 5 of them.

    This is a repeating problem that SE has yet to solve, where players can not leave the game and catch up later because the content is abandoned quickly as soon as something new comes out.

    Both Aquapolis and The Lost Canals of Uznair are impossible to enter, because there is no way to "roulette" into them. If you opt to go solo, you last maybe 5 minutes. This is something SE should consider fixing, eg include the Aquapolis and The Lost Canals of Uznair in a "treasure hunt" roulette that only requires having previously found a map to unlock it, but to actually go there via roulette, someone in the data center to use the map.

    There's other group content that is abandoned, and no MMORPG has yet to solve the problem. Either you have to stay ahead, or you only get to experience part of the content necessary to get to the current content. All the leveling roulette does is give new/alt players an option to not get stuck behind a content gate. It does nothing for the optional content.


    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    This is not unique to XIV at all. Not even remotely. In every mmorpg that has the trinity of tank/healer/dps in order to do content, for most content dps have the longest queues because a massive chunk of players, for several reasons, do not want to tank or heal. It hasn't got to do with those roles not being fun, it often has a lot to do with players not wanting the responsibility that comes with those roles. And well for some people they just prefer playing as dps.

    If you can't deal with dps queue times then I suggest you stay away from any mmos that have a trinity system for their group content. Or play a tank or healer.

    Also you think 10+ minutes is too long? I consider a 10 - 15 minute queue to be pretty fast for a dps. I'd be more sympathetic if your queue times were always 30+ minutes.

    Not trying to invalidate your entire post, but I do think your criticism of dps queue times is a bit silly.
    MMORPG's that do not use the Tank-Healer-DPS or Tank-Healer-Support-DPS mechanics are a lot less fun, because there's absolutely no skill involved. It's just keep pushing buttons with the biggest boom until you defeat the target. In many cases those games could be defined as "all DPS", and thus no content can ever be balanced, since each piece of content is only balanced for the skills that are new to that content patch. Once a new piece of content comes out, the old content is a faceroll, and can be solo'd. That's just not fun for new players, as anyone who would party with you can just drag you through the content in a few minutes because they are OP for the content. At least FFXIV has that solution (undersized party = no exp, synced party=exp) , even if it's been ham-handed in making content solo-able by doing so.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 04-19-2018 at 01:05 PM.

  10. #50
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    OH PLEASE! Like ppl won't complain when blitzball will be implemented calling it shallow, unimaginative or boring.
    As if it wasn't on FFX already
    It was shallow, unimaginative, and boring in FFX too. It always amazed me, they went to all the trouble to design and build this entire system for playing underwater soccer and they leave out the most crucial component to that experience... the 3-dimensional nature of the field. They make a BIG F'ING DEAL about how spherical everything in Spira is and then when it comes time to play underwater soccer in an enormous water ball... it's on a 2-dimensional plane. What?

    Honestly I'd rather SE not waste their time on minigames here. This game needs actual content, not Lords of Verminion 2.0.
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