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  1. #91
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Why not just remove gil and the MB if you're gonna sell gil.... I'm starting to see who the real trash players are here... I wish some of you people who complain constantly about every single thing really would unsub permanently... I'm not saying complaints are wrong but some people here complain about EVERYTHING... why are you even here? You hate everything about the game except your stupid proposals to copy x from game z.. keep making hyperbolic threads like these and don't be surprised when SE thinks this is what the players really want.... then it's all on you idiots... sarcasm is hard enough in text let alone across languages...
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  2. #92
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    What do you "win", though?
    More chances someone will buy your wares that are likely going to be undercut quite a lot before yours actually sell.
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  3. #93
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Just because you do not care about gil making, that does not change if something else that you are not into is P2W or not. SE is making gil making more and more P2W esp with this app now and being able to have a 10th retainer.

    You do not see the issue with 15 dollar = 40 sale slots vs 36 dollars a month with 200 slots with steamline undercutting for more fees? flat out pay to win
    Having anything over a few hundred million gil doesn't give you any advantages in the game whatsoever other than allowing you to buy whatever on the MB first. As I've already stated you can make just as much money with 2 retainers and 36 slots as you can with 10 retainers and however many slots.

    Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying. Where in the app does it allow you to do either of these things? Nowhere, therefore it's not P2W.

    Stop cherry picking, either respond to all of it or none of it.
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  4. #94
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    JackHatchet's Avatar
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    Mateus
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    Someone who pays real life American dollars can literally move 5X the supplies that someone without extra retainers can. The effort to obtain items is minimum if someone is flipping. It's very easy for someone with a near infinite marketing reach to dominate and control some markets. Add in botting to that mix and it very obvious happens on many servers in many different markets.

    Honestly they should STREAMLINE the amount of items ALL PLAYERS can AUCTION regardless of pay2win services. Extra retainers should JUST be inventory slots--not market slots.
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  5. #95
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    As I've already stated you can make just as much money with 2 retainers and 36 slots as you can with 10 retainers and however many slots.
    This is flat out lies.
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  6. #96
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    Pollux Luminous
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    I disagree with wanting gil to be brought with real life money. I know someone said something about inflation of things on the market board. I think that's pretty much what would happen.

    Also I doubt SE would ever allow for fantasias to be put on the marketboard. I think they'd lose out on a lot of $$$.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    This is flat out lies.
    I will agree with you on this. It is very easy to corner a market and move exponentially more gil with 9 retainers than with 2.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by New_Game_Plus View Post
    I disagree with wanting gil to be brought with real life money. I know someone said something about inflation of things on the market board. I think that's pretty much what would happen.

    Also I doubt SE would ever allow for fantasias to be put on the marketboard. I think they'd lose out on a lot of $$$.
    You're not thinking clearly. They wouldn't lose out on money. Because the fantasia can "only" come into existence through spending real-life American dollars. In order for someone to sell a Fantasia they would have to buy one from Square-Enix--thus giving them money. If anything it would give Square-Enix more dollars, because people would buy fantasias for personal use, but would also buy additional fantasias to sell for Gil. Everyone wins!
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  9. #99
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by New_Game_Plus View Post
    I disagree with wanting gil to be brought with real life money. I know someone said something about inflation of things on the market board. I think that's pretty much what would happen.

    Also I doubt SE would ever allow for fantasias to be put on the marketboard. I think they'd lose out on a lot of $$$.
    The fantasias still have to be bought in the first place to be able to be placed on the market. :-p

    Aaactually, I just realized a problem with this. The fantasia rewards in game (veteran, collector's edition, msq progress.) Fantasia as it is now can't have this. It would require another version that has absolutely no way to acquire by making a new character.
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  10. #100
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    Yes of course. I imagine they would have two different kinds of fantasias. The quest reward ones be bound and untradable, but then a seperate fantasia designed for mogstation use.
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