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    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeDoom View Post
    ...Isn't there a spell LITERALLY called Holy though?
    Yeah in this case it's just unspecified damage, aka non "holy" magic, think of most of the spells in the game as glamored unspecified damage into the element or type. It has no impact on doing double damage or whatever to voidal mobs or undead, just like lightning won't do more to water or water to fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Yeah in this case it's just unspecified damage, aka non "holy" magic, think of most of the spells in the game as glamored unspecified damage into the element or type. It has no impact on doing double damage or whatever to voidal mobs or undead, just like lightning won't do more to water or water to fire.
    Holy is an element, lorewise. It’s known as Astral (opposed to Umbral). “Holy spells/magic,” “light magic,” “white magic” are all synonymous terms to describe spells and abilities like Holy, Benediction, Tetragrammaton, Assize, Divine Benison etc.

    The casting animation is almost always unaspected, as seen in Ruin, Gravity and seen in WHM as Holy. However, the (WHM) spells from a lore point are decidedly astral aligned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    Holy is an element, lorewise. It’s known as Astral (opposed to Umbral). “Holy spells/magic,” “light magic,” “white magic” are all synonymous terms to describe spells and abilities like Holy, Benediction, Tetragrammaton, Assize, Divine Benison etc.

    The casting animation is almost always unaspected, as seen in Ruin, Gravity and seen in WHM as Holy. However, the spells from a lore point are decidedly astral aligned.
    Good for lore, not talking about lore, talking purely from mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Good for lore, not talking about lore, talking purely from mechanics.
    You replied to a lore-related comment with a comment about mechanics. Everyone knows every spell deals damage unrelated to its assigned element and is purely based on Magic Attack versus Magic Defense. You can see why I was confused by you saying the element doesn’t exist when it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    Holy is an element, lorewise. It’s known as Astral (opposed to Umbral).
    I was under the impression that umbra/astra was written out as elements, and the words themselves merely define the other elemental aether-i.e. the difference between a heat wave and a fireball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Yeah in this case it's just unspecified damage, aka non "holy" magic, think of most of the spells in the game as glamored unspecified damage into the element or type. It has no impact on doing double damage or whatever to voidal mobs or undead, just like lightning won't do more to water or water to fire.
    Then by that logic, there aren't any of the spell types you say Holy was sacrificed to make room for, either...

    There is literally only Magical and Physical (and therein Slashing, Piercing, and Blunt as sub-categories) damage.
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