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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    (...)bulky armor that's going to weigh them down and restrict their movement(...)
    That's the point I've been trying to make all this time. The armors are NOT as bulky as people think. It's a myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    (...)then of course if we're talking pure metal armor on a reasonably cool day but not too hot will still still get overheated faster(...)
    True, but irrelevant to the discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Yes a person can run in armor but we're talking about people who ran with it that wore it, a marathon runner that just slaps on the armor that's not used to it isn't going to get far regardless of how good of a marathon runner they are.
    Wrong. As I said, this is not a fantasy story, it's reality. It is extra weight distributed around their body reasonably evenly. Other than the first few moments to account for learning how to make the steps properly, a long distance run is most certainly something that any marathoner or otherwise avid runner will be able to do. Since you seem to nitpick on irrelevant things, assuming it is a cool/cold day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    A sprinter or someone not used to running marathons is still going to be able to get away faster than a marathon runner can catch up to while in armor.
    A sprinter will always be able to run away faster than a non-sprinter can catch up. That's the concept of being a sprinter. That being said, it is again besides the point. I'm talking here purely about distance. Distance. In response to that person that I originally quoted using "or running endlessly in full armor" comment. There is no consideration for speed here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Modern military people are trained to run in that gear through bootcamp, the gear they wear is meant to be convenient as possible(...)
    You seem to repeatedly ignore what I said. Armor have its weight evenly distributed around the body. I repeat, because it's REALLY important. Armors weight is evenly distributed around the body. An armor IS made as convenient as possible.

    Unlike the armor, modern gear is NOT. It is largely worn on the back. It is NOT evenly distributed around the body. Armors weight had LESS effect on how difficult it was to run than current gear. If you'll think about it for a moment you'll know why. The reason is simple. In modern times soldiers don't need to travel long distances and run all around for hours. If they do, they are specialized units, like recon, that leave their excess equipment they won't need. Other than that, they travel by cars, bikes, planes, in tanks, by boats etc.

    Also...um...knights were training in armor wearing as well, you know?! You really think that random people just randomly put on an armor and went to war? Really?! Current soldiers trainings are a joke (physically) compared to what was in the past. People were trained from early childhood. In addition to training, they were doing heavy physical activity their entire lives. Now?! Soldiers start seriously training at what age?! 19, 20, 21?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    (...)bulky plate armor that weighs up to at least 100 lbs plus as I already said the shield and sword or other weapons.
    Seriously...I told you. The 100lbs armors WERE NOT WORN IN BATTLES. Those were jousting armors. EVENT ARMORS. They were used only OUT of war. They weren't even part of training, really. They were at best to show prowess in the lance and shield on special occasions like a wedding in the royal family or a good hunting season. Sometimes just to compare the knights prowess here or there. THEY WERE FOR FUN. They have as much to do with battle armors as the gladiator armors do. Zero, nada, zilch.

    I used "jostling" instead of "jousting" before, not sure whether in the first instance as well. But it should be obvious what I meant. If not, then maybe this is the issue here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Never claimed they couldn't run or swim but you're overestimating how much they really could.
    ...Yay...And here you made all the time I spent in responses to you completely wasted...I never under or overestimated it in these posts. What I said was that it was possible to a post that put a blanket statement implying that it is not possible.

    Ugh...This is seriously pointless. I won't even comment to the parts about swimming since you completely missed my point altogether.
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    Last edited by kikix12; 04-16-2018 at 06:49 AM.