Final Fantasy 14 App

[Berethos]

lol no, it is pay to win when it is coming to markets
also if they are locking basic features behind more fees like retainer to retainer organization? this is entering EA shadyness of DLC

Oh noes! That 1 extra MB transaction a day is going to kill FFXIV!

Gimme a break.

[Vstarstruck]

Oh noes! That 1 extra MB transaction a day is going to kill FFXIV!

Gimme a break.

found a white knight, gimmie a break you are blind to see problems.

this app is EA level of shadyness

[Berethos]

found a white knight, gimmie a break you are blind to see problems.

this app is EA level of shadyness

They've got a long way to go to reach EA levels. Did you already forget about the lootbox issues with Star Wars Battlefront 2, and their long history of shadyness before that?

Also, I do see issues with it, just not the same issues most of you other whiners are seeing.

It's an app designed around what's accepted in Japanese culture, rather than a more world-wide approach to its features, which is going to cause friction. It's an extra cost that doesn't deliver a whole lot for that extra cost (despite what some claim, the premium features are not extensive, not game changing in the slightest - there's a real tempest in a teapot situation going on with that one). The moogle coins element does concern me, but I'm not going to cry and moan or even comment much until I know how they intend for it to work and what kind of limitations will or will not be in place.

But even though I have these problems with it, I also recognize that its impact on my gameplay experience will be negligible at best - I'll get the free version and get an extra lower cost teleportation spot.

Whoop. De. Freakin. Do.

If that makes me a white knight, then I'll be over here polishing my armor while you're busy making another complaint thread.

BS!
They do not even put money into this game at the level they take in from people, then there is this more greed on top of it?

The time spent on the content for the game in 4.3 was done for free?

Do the devs know that?

If you've got any more silly things to add, please hurry, I've got errands to run.

[Tridus]

They've got a long way to go to reach EA levels. Did you already forget about the lootbox issues with Star Wars Battlefront 2, and their long history of shadyness before that?

Also, I do see issues with it, just not the same issues most of you other whiners are seeing.

Battlefront II is not a sub game. EA also reacted to that, whereas SE completely ignored all the questions about gathering and PvP botting to pitch us yet another cash grab in their sub game.

At this point, EA comparisons are pretty justified.

[KaivaC]

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Was calling the good folks here 'whiners' necessary? Don't turn this into reddit where insults are flung easily from left to right. I may not agree with certain things, but the concerns here are very valid. The devs are starting to get very greedy, and its hard to tell right now if it's the devs this time, or Square. It's a problem, especially as this is still a sub game...the additional costs on top of everything is overkill. I'd rather just spend that money in a gacha game. At least then I know I am getting something most of the time out of it.

[Solarra]

They've got a long way to go to reach EA levels.

You appear to be rationalising that there isn't a problem because other companies are greedier and have done worse things. I don't agree.
I am sure there is worse out there, but that doesn't mean this isn't a greedy cash-grab that gives significant advantages to people willing to pay extra.

[Vstarstruck]

You appear to be rationalising that there isn't a problem because other companies are greedier and have done worse things. I don't agree.
I am sure there is worse out there, but that doesn't mean this isn't a greedy cash-grab that gives significant advantages to people willing to pay extra.

Show me, is there really worse then this? intentionally trying to bloat inventory as much as possible (putting currencies as inventory items) etc, only to release pay by month inventory expansions and inventory management who's total is more then what the sub cost of the game is?

[SokiYagami]

Show me, is there really worse then this? intentionally trying to bloat inventory as much as possible (putting currencies as inventory items) etc, only to release pay by month inventory expansions and inventory management who's total is more then what the sub cost of the game is?

Well... technically speaking, it's still slightly better than lootbox especially with how well RNG works in XIV. Not saying I agree with SE's actions, but it could get even worst.

[Vstarstruck]

But imo way better than having more space, one additional retainer that you can buy and the complete retainer management behind it. With a bit of more nuts and more numbers that you can access the MB you will just get some small advantages over the ones that dont pay. Kinda lika lot of APP games let you pay for more energy or to unlock stuff. (AKA make things faster)

I agree that in a good world it should have been completely free. But sadly SE seems to get money out of everything.

Retainers where close to the line already with P2W concepts behind them (being able to list more items, more retainers = easier to price change, meaning if you put clone item on 2 different retainers, and rotate between them to always have a listing... and more retainers means more space to do this on different items..) this app though def crossed the line.

A sub based model should not have ANY P2W in it, (the worst a sub model should have is exp/leveling potions) this app is really shady.. .. going back to this:

intentionally trying to bloat inventory as much as possible (putting currencies as inventory items) etc, only to release pay by month inventory expansions and inventory management who's total is more then what the sub cost of the game is?

Well... technically speaking, it's still slightly better than lootbox especially with how well RNG works in XIV. Not saying I agree with SE's actions, but it could get even worst.

coming soon, a service for the app that makes you pay 10 dollars a month where you do a daily roll for mounts, savage gear, etc...

[MsQi]

They've got a long way to go to reach EA levels. Did you already forget about the lootbox issues with Star Wars Battlefront 2, and their long history of shadyness before that?

Well, ya gotta have aspirations.