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  1. #1
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    Berethos's Avatar
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    90%?

    You can organize your inventory and armory for free, chat, and get 1 kupo nut per day which you can use to purchase something from the MB.
    Premium: Chat, inventory and armory organisation, organisation of your retainer and saddlebags, double the saddlebag, get one more retainer slot, 2 kupo nuts per day and more nuts that you can keep. And since you can only manage your retainers with premium this kinda hints that you can only use the retainer to retainer sending with premium too. Thats way more behind Premium than free.
    Free:
    Chat
    Inventory
    Armoury
    1 Kupo Nut
    Sync friends list
    Plan events
    Issue Invites
    Configure Notifications

    Premium:
    All above
    Chocobo Saddlebag management
    Chocobo Saddlebag extra slots
    Retainer management
    1 Extra Kupo Nut
    Allows 1 additional Retainer

    I've taken the liberty of bolding the premium parts that might have a more significant impact on your gameplay experience. Maybe. If you're a hoarder and can't manage an inventory properly.
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post

    I've taken the liberty of bolding the premium parts that might have a more significant impact on your gameplay experience. Maybe. If you're a hoarder and can't manage an inventory properly.
    So 8 things behind free version and 5 more things to use when you pay for it. (And lets be honest, these five points are probably those that are worth the most to the community. Since retainer management, more inventory through the saddle bags and theoretically even one more retainer which you can use to store and sell stuff are really interesting) If we say that the app can have 13 functions, you can only get to 8 without paying it. That is around 61% of the app and far away from your 90%. And this is only numbers and not just the importance of each function itself.

    Also you bolded those that might have more impact. Interesting how those are all behind the paywall. Which is exactly what my post is about. You cant do 90% of the app for free and the most interesting ones are costing you money. How is that good?

    Even more if you look at it in that way: You can chat and plan events outside of this app already thanks to stuff like discord. And you can also seemingly just chat with those that also own the app.


    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    They probably used the majority of our sub to fund the content and other QoL development in 4.3.

    I'd also not be surprised if part of the premium fee on the mobile app is meant to recoup costs of developing the mobile app.
    You know whats also interesting? That WoW had an App too (they took it down recently as far as I know) and it was completely free.

    Why even take the money do to something like that? This app was talked about for such a long time and probably needs staff to look and work on it. All of that is money. For a chat that you can already do with discord, invites that still need people online to do it. With MB that you can either do once a day or twice (or x often if they can be done with coins too..) The retainer management also makes only sense to me if you use that to sell stuff which you still can do only twice a day if you pay.

    So we are left with increase of retainer and chocobo saddle. Did we really need an app for that? Couldnt they have taken all that money that is put into this and will be put into it and just increased inventory for all of us?

    Honestly the april fool FF14 Go was much more interesting than this. (For me at least)
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    Last edited by Alleo; 04-14-2018 at 10:02 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    So 8 things behind free version and 5 more things to use when you pay for it. (And lets be honest, these five points are probably those that are worth the most to the community. Since retainer management, more inventory through the saddle bags and theoretically even one more retainer which you can use to store and sell stuff are really interesting) If we say that the app can have 13 functions, you can only get to 8 without paying it. That is around 61% of the app and far away from your 90%. And this is only numbers and not just the importance of each function itself.

    Also you bolded those that might have more impact. Interesting how those are all behind the paywall. Which is exactly what my post is about. You cant do 90% of the app for free and the most interesting ones are costing you money. How is that good?

    Even more if you look at it in that way: You can chat and plan events outside of this app already thanks to stuff like discord. And you can also seemingly just chat with those that also own the app.
    It's worse than that if you look at what the free one can do: Inventory management excluding retainers and saddlebag. That's inventory management excluding the majority of your inventory.

    Is managing a third of your inventory really a feature? Hell, is configuring notifications a feature, rather than something that's flat out expected as a minimum baseline requirement for a modern app?

    In truth, the free version of the app is a demo version. Nothing more. The fact that you need a paid app to be able to directly move things between chocobo inventory and retainer inventory is a bleeping joke. That's a basic UI defect of the game they're not fixing except in a paywalled thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    @Tridus pparently in Japan they don't have discord or something so from their point of wiew the app is very useful if that's true.

    As for us ye the free app is pretty much worthless
    I can see that, yeah. But it adds to the tone deaf-ness we keep seeing with their non Japanese players and goes back to why communication is an issue.
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    Last edited by Tridus; 04-14-2018 at 10:07 PM.
    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    I can see that, yeah. But it adds to the tone deaf-ness we keep seeing with their non Japanese players and goes back to why communication is an issue.
    It does add to that, however they had an extensive exposition about bots issue on the LL and they added a bot section to rmt reports.
    Which leads me to believe they do listen and are quick to respond to some topics.
    What now I want to know is if the app will be like that in global or not.

    Frankly I think that we need to state our distate of the current app system and be very vocal about the problems ESPECIALLY since atm the free one is completely worthless for non jpn players since there are already free programs that allow us to achieve some of those functions.
    Not to mention that we must NOT settle for a double size saddlebag behind a premium fee (retainers are already too much imho)
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