Can we please get more cool looking outfits for male characters?

[Iscah]

And they're giving us the bunny outfit for male characters, does that make it masculine? (well depends on how you wear it I guess but you get my point). Look also at how they advertised it - on female characters, and you're going to be hard pressed to find too many male playable characters who actually use it. Not saying they don't exist, just not half as much as female charas. Also not the best connotation when both those male charas are antagonists at best, villains at worst.

Ah, I wasn't saying they're masculine - just that it is, as I said, interesting that they chose to give both those styles to male characters. Whether it's a "no really, they're unisex!" attempt or just showing their taste in character design.

Hyurs, Lalafell, Elezen iirc, to name a few, all have existing facial hair slots. They could add those as new options to an already existing customization option, since we know they don't want to add new options altogether, but adding more options to an existing category should be easy enough - they do it all the time with the hairstyles.

It seems like it should be easy enough to add extra options to an existing category, but they don't - whether they just won't do it or actually can't.

Some customisation options like hairstyles are "pick one thing out of this list" but others like facial features (including scars and the existing facial hair) are "here are five design elements, turn on the ones you want". And they don't seem to ever add new ones, plus there have been in-game opportunities to get new hairstyles but not anything else. That's why I'm saying that I suspect they may only be able to add new designs via hairstyles and not the other list.

Hien's hairstyle already exists in the game though? You mentioned it yourself, while not as exaggerated, it's basically the same style.

People are asking for his hair specifically. (Usually in conjunction with "why isn't his costume available on MogStation yet?") That's why I mentioned it.

[Theodric]

During one of the early Halloween events they actually took the time to add a couple of new face paint options...but other than that every new customisation option has been some manner of hairstyle. We also used to get more than just two new hairstyles per patch but that has been reduced.

[BillyKaplan]

It seems like it should be easy enough to add extra options to an existing category, but they don't - whether they just won't do it or actually can't.

I feel like it's won't, to get around a lot of complications with the existing system. Mind, it's not really complications, mostly hassles. Like you said, hairstyles are mutually exclusive to each other. You don't need to worry about how well they look with each other. Facial features, be it scars, marks, what hair options we do have, etc, they can stack, so they probably don't add to those to avoid clashes. Even the facial hair options we have now can come together, lord knows I use the 'goatee' option often enough. You can wear either separately, but they were obviously designed to come together and form a very specific whole. Suddenly, adding extra options to that would open up options they'll feel worried about how good they look... which is where they're going too far and I say to hell with it. First, it is more than possible to keep stubbles while certain areas are thicker. And if it looks bad...? To hell with that, it's on the player

[Iscah]

Just wanted to clarify that I'm not saying there *isn't* a problem with the hairstyle balance, because other people say that there is, but then again I'm not personally seeing it and wondering why other people do.

It also occurred to me since my previous post that it may be harder to come up with more unique male hairstyles that are 'unlike the existing designs' but won't be perceived as unisex/feminine? (At least I struggle when drawing original characters.) But I'm happy to be proven wrong there.

From what I can see, there are already quite a lot of variations on short hair in the character creator already, whereas more elaborate styles are more likely to involve longer hair, which is seen as feminine.

[BillyKaplan]

They can start by race unlocking half the Au Ra hairstyles >_>

[jameseoakes]

Just wanted to clarify that I'm not saying there *isn't* a problem with the hairstyle balance, because other people say that there is, but then again I'm not personally seeing it and wondering why other people do.

It also occurred to me since my previous post that it may be harder to come up with more unique male hairstyles that are 'unlike the existing designs' but won't be perceived as unisex/feminine? (At least I struggle when drawing original characters.) But I'm happy to be proven wrong there.

From what I can see, there are already quite a lot of variations on short hair in the character creator already, whereas more elaborate styles are more likely to involve longer hair, which is seen as feminine.

Long hair doesn't have to feminine, I have long hair and it doesn't look feminine. Which I think is the issue most of the long hairstyles have been taken directly from female modes so they look terrible on a male.

[Kennar]

Long hair doesn't have to feminine, I have long hair and it doesn't look feminine. Which I think is the issue most of the long hairstyles have been taken directly from female modes so they look terrible on a male.

All I can say is that I'm glad the best hair has existed since 1.0 because there isn't anything else that I think looks good on my character. The two buns, or the princess hair (whatever it's called), just look silly on a guy that's built like a brick outhouse.

Less-feminine long hair would be nice, but I would also like to see more extra-short styles, as well. The closest we can get to a high-and-tight is Conrad's hair, but that's a little too... fancy for my tastes. I'll also throw in my support for more facial hair options. Where's the glorious Tom Selleck 'stache, or mutton chops, or the neatly-trimmed full beard?

[Iscah]

Long hair doesn't have to feminine, I have long hair and it doesn't look feminine. Which I think is the issue most of the long hairstyles have been taken directly from female modes so they look terrible on a male.

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that long hair is only feminine (and I did say earlier that I'd like to see more long styles available for male characters).

[Theodric]

Well, I'm going to give this another nudge...

Hien's outfit was added to the game as of today...but it did not come with his hairstyle as a customisation option which is what a lot of people wanted as expressed multiple times within this thread and others like it.

[Hestzhyen]

Well, I'm going to give this another nudge...

Hien's outfit was added to the game as of today...but it did not come with his hairstyle as a customisation option which is what a lot of people wanted as expressed multiple times within this thread and others like it.

Not surprised in the least. Extra not surprised that they're charging the same for lightly modified dungeon gear that they did for brand new sets like Lyse's.

XIV is a total waifu game.