Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
Scathe was useful before BLM was buffed into what it became in HW. Our damage, while impressive, wasn't anywhere near what it is now, and we were more heavily affected by slower cast times (due to how bad Spell Speed was).

Sleep shines a bit in Eureka, where it's a pretty good idea to use as your gimped version of a stun when you're soloing.
That's why I said "is ever useful" instead of "was ever useful". It used to be passable, but now more or less worthless. As for Sleep, I'm not a big fan of moves that are semi useful in a single place and virtually nowhere else. Sleep needs a rework or the boot.