The RMT of selling content using cross server party finder

[Vnolan]

There's an easy enough way to keep this policy while getting the evidence. Have Square's very own GMs join those discords and ask for the price sheet.

Yup. A few sting operations would clean up PF real fast.

There a few problems with that. If a GM investigated one and found it wasn't RMT, how would it prevent additional reports of the same listing while at the same time respecting the seller's privacy? If it was RMT, but the GM was fooled, that would allow the sellers to continue as they did before. If a seller was found guilty of RMT, they wouldn't be permabanned if it was their first offense, so the same seller could use the same contact info and claim they've shunned the ways of RMT. If they were permabanned, they could just use a new dummy account and different contact info.

It's a thing that been going on since couple months.
We have multiple threads on this here and on reddit.

We can hope someone asked a question about this for the upcoming LL this weekend.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4632827

You can like that post and hope it gets asked, but your post already answers it. There have been numerous threads about an issue which could be answered in all of one short post by a GM, but there has been no response. If SE were to say they won't or can't do anything about it, that would open the floodgates for RMT. If by some crazy chance the question or some variation is not only asked, but gets an answer saying they will be updating their policy on the issue, it would be another blemish on the system between the GMs and devs.

Sadly this exists but why should anyone care? If people want to spend their own real money on something let them. If they get caught they get caught. If they don’t, why do others care? The world isn’t fair from incompetent people getting high paying positions from a relative even though someone who spent years of studies should be the candidate. Just work hard and play how you want and if it doesn’t concern you just ignore it

Do you make the same post in threads about RMT bots spamming chat or sending invites? I'm sure many people would like to know if they could make money on the side by following the same rules that apply to parsing.

There are a few instances where I can see that the current system is trying to avoid.

Bans. That's what it's trying to avoid. You don't have to ban people if you ignore the reports.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

There a few problems with that. If a GM investigated one and found it wasn't RMT, how would it prevent additional reports of the same listing while at the same time respecting the seller's privacy? If it was RMT, but the GM was fooled, that would allow the sellers to continue as they did before. If a seller was found guilty of RMT, they wouldn't be permabanned if it was their first offense, so the same seller could use the same contact info and claim they've shunned the ways of RMT. If they were permabanned, they could just use a new dummy account and different contact info.

All the GMs need do is "accept" the sell, then flag all seven people who party with them. Even a temp ban would scare virtually every sale group into immediately stopping. The trick to dealing with botters, RMTs and etc isn't to ban the dummy accounts but actively scare people away from doing it to begin with. SE is so hands off, no one's remotely concerned, thus you see an increasing amount of exploits.