The RMT of selling content using cross server party finder

[whiskeybravo]

But then when would it stop? As mentioned previously, they sell housing items and what's to stop them from selling other things if everyone just ignored them? The market board would collapse in days and the economy would be in shambles, I've seen it happen in other game where people buy in game currency and control the market, preventing anyone else from progressing.

And then if this kind of activity is done repeatedly with no action from SE, then what is even the point of playing the game when everyone just pays to have it be played for them? That's something I never understood.

I mostly agree with Linx0r. Your logic is the sort of twisted logic that we must stop all bad things from happening before they actually happen, which is simply impossible to say the least. If it truly becomes a rampant problem then it's on SE to fix it right then and there or lose players/revenue as a result. Right now it could hardly be considered a rampant problem (selling end game content clears for real money, that is)

RMT for gil I would consider in a different category, as gil in circulation can effect everyone on a particular server without their choice or knowledge. But I can't feel the same for services like this; it's a voluntary transaction on both sides - and it doesn't effect anyone outside of the transacting parties. Is it ethical? That's debatable I suppose. But in general I think there are a lot more people out there willing to "lend a hand" without asking for compensation, and as long as this is true it shouldn't really develop into a larger problem.

As for it being against ToS. That's on SE. If they are only going to use certain things for evidence and perpetrators know this they will obviously use it to their advantage to try to escape punishment.

Certainly others are entitled to their own opinion and that's fine. I just think on the long list of things to have a problem with this day & age, it's pretty far down there.

[Vnolan]

Right now it could hardly be considered a rampant problem (selling end game content clears for real money, that is)

I don't know how it is on Primal, but it can get pretty bad on Aether. There are times where the same group has three different listings up - One under a roulette, one under an EX trial and one under the 'other' tab - and that's one group. It's not uncommon to see 5+ listings at once.

All the GMs need do is "accept" the sell, then flag all seven people who party with them.

What if the seller was legit? "Sorry for wasting your time"?

For something like Ultimate it would be obvious all are in on it, but for easier duties, the sellers could be recruiting PUGs and keeping the info about it being a sale to themselves (less mercs = larger share).

Even a temp ban would scare virtually every sale group into immediately stopping.

I agree, but SE isn't going to temp ban that many players that have cleared Ultimate.

Doubt anything will happen, from a business point of view they aren't really gaining anything from spending resources on busting those groups, and despite all the shouting over it this doesn't really impact the game at all. Unlike people who buy gil from bots (which involve bot-generated money and can affect a server economy) the money is being handed from player A to player B, it doesn't even touch the FFXIV economy.

The same groups sell gil and use bots. Who would have guessed?