Bunny outfits for men, not a cryptid!

[Miste]

You know, putting a biiiit of effort into it. Alternatively, yeah, the Chippendale's looks generic, if we use the pics posted as a comparison. You can even replicate it. But what about create an outfit for males using THAT outfit as a concept? Then add all the accesories and ornaments you want to make it look more Final Fantasy-ish.

Well thank you for the clarification...the reason I didn't understand was no one who posted images of chippendales explained anything like that; including your post with the image.

Everyone who posted those images basically said "I wanted it like this" or "I expected this or something like this", but that is so vague...no one clarified something like: "I want something designed using this concept as a base and expanded upon to make it more FFXIV style and unique"

[Levarius]

If they did end up making a male-exclusive Chippendales outfit and it doesn't look that much different to what I've created (which I'm pretty sure is unisex), then I'd be more disappointed about that than I would be with the copy-paste.

This is all hypothetical. While there are sort of similar items (ribbon especially isn't very close, griffin leather cuffs), they're still not a collar with a bow tie and dress shirt cuffs. The pants could be cut a little lower like goatskin breeches and maybe add a bit of a modest bulge. Want a different bare chest? Add some Gold Saucer-themed arm tattoos or something. I think it's possible to make a Chippendales-esque outfit with some nice and unique items.

[Vstarstruck]

Well thank you for the clarification...thereason I didn't understand was no one who posted images of chippendales explained anything like that; including your post with the image.

Everyone who posted those images basically said "I wanted it like this" or "I expected this or something like this", but that is so vague...no one clarified something like: "I want something designed using this concept as a base and expanded upon to make it more FFXIV style and unique"

welcome to online communications, every one skips out on little details like that expecting people to get the implied meaning, but then end up chewing each others heads off when they do not get it, such as:

Except this isn't putting words in people's mouth, as it has actually happened already, in theodrics post, which you quoted.

Lets read again shall we? I will even bold stuff for you

In other words, you don't really have a stake in the fight or any knowledge of the long string of disappointments where male glamour options are concerned yet you can't help but rush at the chance to make a snide comment. It's very telling that the vast majority of the posters belittling the concerns raised about male glamour options don't even seem to play a male character themselves...at least not as their main character. Interestingly enough, many of those same individuals also post as Au Ra and Miqo'te women - which just so happen to be the two of the more popular and 'fan service' options available where glamour options are concerned.

So few things here, first off they where stating how a vast majority act, not just yourself, second the fact you feel this was directed at you, you are basically admitting yes you where belittling people that are concerned about male glamor. 3rd, they where not assuming anything as they noted "at least not as their main character" I do not think you have a right to state "I don't usually play miqo actually, I'm normally a hyur." When you are posting on a Miqo'te as far as I remember.

Now I do not think it can be debated that "Au Ra and Miqo'te women - which just so happen to be the two of the more popular and 'fan service' options available where glamour options are concerned." holds true. People just want more options for what they like, males is lacking, and more unique male outfits would be appreciated, not this landslide of female only, or male and female gear, or such as this, male getting copy/pasted female gear. The double standard as you call it, is what people are upset about.

It really just gets old seeing you over and over again posting "can't please everyone" to legitimate concerns.

People are so unreasonable sometimes...

You had no reason to post this other then trying to fight with people

[kikix12]

Answering to you both, a male equivalent would be a remodel using the base design to create something that is appealing for men, not just transfering the whole outfit and stamp them on their bodies.

No. A male equivalent is what a male equivalent is. It's not what you want the male equivalent to be. If someone would tell me they want an orange, me giving them a tangerine would make them question my intellect. It looks like orange (though smaller), its acidic, it's fruit as well and related to boot...but it's a tangerine.

A male equivalent to a bunny hostess suit is either based on its look (aka. that suit, but wearable by men) or on its function. And yeah...this is how a male equivalent of a hostess looks like.

What you are talking about is a MASCULINE equivalent. Masculine =/= male. Those are two different words with two different meanings. And ironically...a masculine equivalent could be female-only.


So I go back to my earlier post. Did people actually ask for WHAT they want? No. Because they said something that is simply wrong, hoping that the other side will deduce what they want from context. Yeah...no. Sorry, but how they are expected to deduce anything from context if they do NOT have context? This is translated, then is briefed and passes multiple hands. Unless you make CLEAR what you want, aka. a masculine bunny suit for men, you cannot complain about it being different than what you want.

The fault is on those that did not define what they want. It's as simple as that. No amount of shifting blame on Square for not understanding you is going to change the reality that YOU (not you specifically, but those that wanted a "male bunny suit") are the ones that misused the English language in requesting the suit.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

3rd, they where not assuming anything as they noted "at least not as their main character" I do not think you have a right to state "I don't usually play miqo actually, I'm normally a hyur." When you are posting on a Miqo'te as far as I remember.

Now I do not think it can be debated that "Au Ra and Miqo'te women - which just so happen to be the two of the more popular and 'fan service' options available where glamour options are concerned." holds true. People just want more options for what they like, males is lacking, and more unique male outfits would be appreciated, not this landslide of female only, or male and female gear, or such as this, male getting copy/pasted female gear. The double standard as you call it, is what people are upset about.

It really just gets old seeing you over and over again posting "can't please everyone" to legitimate concerns.

If we go by that logic, how can you have an opinion on Eureka if you only post with a level 60 character? Clearly you haven't done it before, as far as we know!

I was a hyur for years. Just because you have only seen me posting in the last month does not negate those years. In fact, most people who know me are surprised I'm still a Miqo'te, as I have fantasia'd to one many times in the past, and it rarely lasts more than a day before I'm back to hyur.

Can't please everyone is a legitimate thing to say, as no one will ever be happy with everything. You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time. This is a legit quote and its true.

There is no "landslide" of female only gear. There are actually less than 5 or so sets that are female specific where males do not have an equivalent. There are several sets that are unisex instead of male only, and I agree this is unfair. You are judging based on the topic of males asked for a bunny suit and got one, vs males asked for male specific or less male unisex female only gear. I have NEVER said males should not have equivalent amounts of gender locked gear.

The topic at hand is separate from other topics on the matter. In this case, there were many people asking for the bunny outfit to be available to males as well. They did so, and now other people are unhappy about it, saying they expected something else. I'm pretty sure the dev communication was always "we are working on the male bunny suit" and not "we are working on a new unique male bunny suit."

Missed the point yet again, why am i not surprised.
red herring (or legitimately did not understand) no idea.

I need to ask though, how? HOW after all those details I gave?

Edit: maybe be a good idea to have your post typed out in full before posting, regardless I am not wasting any more post quota trying to take back what I said to your new edits and posting again.

I guess I can say this though, you may be correct but that line is still out of place, as you keep doing that to subjects no matter what it is asked for, and gets old. Just let people talk what they want changed, we do not need "spam" I guess you can call it, pointing out "can't please everyone" as that does NOTHING to help the topic in general. It is a another bandaid, quick and lazy fix, for once I would like them to show a change with effort behind it, that is all I ask for.

Your points are very hard to understand. You stated i did not have the right to say i was a hyur. I have every right to state I was a hyur, I have screenshots to prove it.

People literally asked for the male bunny outfit. How is it lazy to give people what they asked for?

I do not care, it is off track and off the point, I am not going to ask for such a thing when it does not matter, you taking that statement that literal just shows how much you misunderstood Theodric.

You do not understand because you take things too literally.

What does this even mean? You say I don't have the right, then you say it doesn't matter to the topic. WHY DID YOU BRING IT UP THEN?!

[Vstarstruck]

If we go by that logic, how can you have an opinion on Eureka if you only post with a level 60 character? Clearly you haven't done it before, as far as we know!

I was a hyur for years. Just because you have only seen me posting in the last month does not negate those years. In fact, most people who know me are surprised I'm still a Miqo'te, as I have fantasia'd to one many times in the past, and it rarely lasts more than a day before I'm back to hyur.

Missed the point yet again, why am i not surprised.
red herring (or legitimately did not understand) no idea.

I need to ask though, how? HOW after all those details I gave?

Edit: maybe be a good idea to have your post typed out in full before posting, regardless I am not wasting any more post quota trying to take back what I said to your new edits and posting again.

I guess I can say this though, you may be correct but that line is still out of place (goes back to my reply to Miste ) as you keep doing that to subjects no matter what it is asked for, and gets old. Just let people talk what they want changed, we do not need "spam" I guess you can call it, pointing out "can't please everyone" as that does NOTHING to help the topic in general. (the point that ended up missed why I replied to your first post in the manner I did so) It is a another bandaid, quick and lazy fix, for once I would like them to show a change with effort behind it, that is all I ask for.

Your points are very hard to understand. You stated i did not have the right to say i was a hyur. I have every right to state I was a hyur, I have screenshots to prove it.

I do not care, it is off track and off the point, I am not going to ask for such a thing when it does not matter, you taking that statement that literal just shows how much you misunderstood Theodric.

You do not understand because you take things too literally.
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[Ayer2015]

I dont care about the outfit..... I'm just happy I can finally wear bunny ears

[Ariane]

On a different note...Please, people...Stop bringing Chippendales into this...

They have nothing in common with the bunny outfits.

Actually, not true. Chippendales tried to trademark their custom, but the US Patent office would not give it to them. This went to court and they ruled that the Patent Office did the right thing, because a witness testified Chippendales outfit is based off the Playboy bunny costume, which means the outfit wasn't distinctive to be able to get a trademark. So yes, Chipperndales outfit is the male version of the Bunny Playboy costume.

[Osmond]

Maybe I think it's the reason why they took too long make this male version of the bunny suit. Cause they know ppl are going to complain anyway when they ask for it and it comes out what they ask for. What were they expecting, a much more revealing gear set? Is that what the community that complain asking for? I mean at least they got it I guess.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Thank God. Now, everyone can stop asking about them incessantly and move on with their lives.