Should items previously tied to physical purchases become available in-game again?

[SigmaOZ]

The game is getting really old and I believe the Producer should start by making available all the previous rewards, exclusive items and the like!...

It actually depends on how long they are planning to run this game and I doubt there's any point in trying to sell stuff up to the last day of service if they could make more money by selling now that the game is still being run!...

I'm pretty sure they are already in development of the next Online Final Fantasy game that will replace this one!...

Bottom line, yes, make everything available for everyone, I too want those 1.0 exclusive rewards I never got to obtain!...

[Laerad3993]

I’m in the middle when it comes to these sorts of things. Yes I like having items that are no longer obtainable, but at the same time I’m not going to be mad that someone else ends up with it later on. Can’t afford $140 for a statue? That’s fair, put the emote up for $12+(People will STILL complain, guaranteed, since it isn’t free), I ordered the statue for both because I collect the play arts kai and similar statues, and I like emotes.

But do not list the item as “limited edition/exclusive NOW ONLY” and then renege on it later. Either flat out state it’s now or never, or state it’s now and much later.

No to the 1.0 items. Similar items/skins sure. But not the actual items.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Whether they SHOULD or not is pretty much irrelevant. SE is unlikely to do this, because doing so undermines one of the core draws of the product: its limited factor.

Right now, when SE puts out some hundred-dollar statue or whatever with an in-game tie-in item, folks know that this is their ONLY chance to snag that in-game item. By making the item limited, folks are encouraged to think, "If I don't buy it now, I'll never have the chance again! I don't even WANT the statue, but if I don't pony up, I'll miss out on the minion/glamour/mount/emote/whatever and never have the chance again!" So, they give SE a hundred bucks, the statue goes into the closet to gather dust, and the player has a new minion that follows them around for a few days before the next hot minion shows up. Even so, the player has the warm, fuzzy knowledge that if they ever wanted to bring out that minion again, it's there for them. They didn't miss out!

This is a model that WORKS - but only as long as they maintain the exclusivity. The moment they start making old items available, people start to understand that with a little patience, they can get the thing they want without spending that hundred bucks. And save on closet space, too.

I would posit the majority of people who purchase a $150 statue are doing so for the physical item itself and not pixels on a screen. Another factor, one I suspect SE may be testing with Bahamut emote, is if what you said truly applies. After all, if only 1,000 people are willing to spend $150 on a statue but 20,000 will purchase a $12 emote. Your net profits are higher appealing to the latter.

As someone who has many exclusive minions, I agree with HyoMin's post earlier. And couldn't be bothered if someone else wishes to purchase these items sometime down the road. I would still have bought my Carby plushies and Shiva statue.

There is a reason why they are called Limited and exclusive content. I don't think SE would like a legal issue for false advertisement. IF anything they did request to have it re released, example the Shiva statue.

The ToS absolves them of any responsibility. That being said, companies have long gotten around legal clauses due to the sheer impossibility of being able to finance such a lawsuit. Case in point, it's actually illegal for companies like Apple or Samsung to refuse to honour their respective warranties just because you've had repairs done at a third party outlet, provided no alternations were made. How do they get around it? The average customer would be long bankrupted before a judge even heard of the suit, let alone looked at it.

Regardless, SE has already shown they are not beholden to exclusivity claims when Lightning's outfit and the Moogle attire were both put on the Mogstation; having previously be cited as exclusive.

[bass9020]

Now Legacy player... I feal like this should be made available. Only PC had chance to get it was for playing like 3 months of 1.0.. Some of us have been playing since ARR yet we no even considered Legacy no even recognised for it so I see some people piss off.

Anyone was able to purchase Legacy Status, even if you didnt play. I had to stop playing for a while and bought it just to make sure. The Goobue and tattoo well cant really say much except they wanted to thank the people who were able to play at the time.

[LastFireAce]

Anyone was able to purchase Legacy Status, even if you didnt play. I had to stop playing for a while and bought it just to make sure. The Goobue and tattoo well cant really say much except they wanted to thank the people who were able to play at the time.

Wired I read you had to register if you didn't have 3 month worth you weren't qualified.

"Users with service accounts that paid for at least 90 cumulative days of subscription for the original version of FFXIV between January 6, 2012 and suspension of 1.0's billing services on September 29, 2012 became eligible for Legacy benefits in A Realm Reborn; if paying monthly, the absolute latest this could have occurred was on June 29th. Square Enix automatically notified the players via email when they became eligible, and the status is permanent, even if a player did not immediately return to FFXIV upon its relaunch."

[Rokke]

I’ve only been aware of two waves for the Shiva statue, and how quickly did they all sell out? Same thing with the Odin statue: it sold out ridiculously fast, and the only second wave produced was put up on the JP SE store only; the NA store never saw a second wave. While I have no interest in the Odin statue or emote, I know many that do. $150 USD is fairly pricey; I can’t blame the people who wanted it not having the money directly on-hand at the time it was put up for sale. Considering the first wave wasn’t even available for a full week on the NA store, that’s not even enough time to get in a new paycheck from most jobs. Sorry, I still don’t see the reason in timed exclusivity.

Shiva wave 1 was december.
Shiva wave 2 was bout 2ish weeks after wave 1 sold out. It lasted about 7 hours.
Shiva wave 3 was about 2ish weeks after wave 2. It also lasted around 7 hours.
Since then there have been a few listings of what I imagine were canceled sales/cards that didn't go through.

Odin did not sell "ridiculously fast"- he lasted a couple months SE store post preorder.

In addition, SE will not charge you until they are ready to ship your items. You don't need to have money on hand when a listing goes up unless you want to get the payment over and done with immediately. If someone missed either of the statues, it was entirely because they weren't paying attention to the store. There was plenty of time to preorder both.

[Emstidor]

If they put a disclaimer on the store page to the effect of "Note: This digital item will be made available for individual purchase at a later date.", then I'd have zero problem with them bringing it back whenever they wanted, be it weeks, months, or years from that point, because I know I could just wait that long to obtain it.

For items released up to now that didn't have that posted, yeah, it'd bother me a little for them to turn around and make them generally available when part of the reason for buying it was the implied limited nature of the digital items.

[bass9020]

Wired I read you had to register if you didn't have 3 month worth you weren't qualified.

"Users with service accounts that paid for at least 90 cumulative days of subscription for the original version of FFXIV between January 6, 2012 and suspension of 1.0's billing services on September 29, 2012 became eligible for Legacy benefits in A Realm Reborn; if paying monthly, the absolute latest this could have occurred was on June 29th. Square Enix automatically notified the players via email when they became eligible, and the status is permanent, even if a player did not immediately return to FFXIV upon its relaunch."

I stopped playing right before 1.19 hit and up to that point the game was still free. I think at 1.20 is when they started charging people the monthly fee? When Yoshi first announced ARR and the legacy program is when I bought the 90 day sub even though I wasnt playing. So as long as you had a service account or made one which I think anyone could do regardless if they actually played or not then you were able to get legacy.

[Beckett]

Sure, why not? Exclusivity was already thrown out the window when they added previous event rewards to the Mog Station. May as well go the full monty with it.

I definitely think Mog Station is the only fair way to do it, though. The people that got these in-game rewards originally should at least feel satisfied that they got them for "free", while everyone else has to pay for them.

[HyoMinPark]

Shiva wave 1 was december.
Shiva wave 2 was bout 2ish weeks after wave 1 sold out. It lasted about 7 hours.
Shiva wave 3 was about 2ish weeks after wave 2. It also lasted around 7 hours.
Since then there have been a few listings of what I imagine were canceled sales/cards that didn't go through.

Thank you for the clarification. But again, seems like neither wave lasted very long.

Odin did not sell "ridiculously fast"- he lasted a couple months SE store post preorder.

Forgive me, but I recall threads being made very quickly after he became available for pre-order on the store about how he was already showing up as on backorder or no longer available. I do not recall him lasting "a couple months" post preorder.

In addition, SE will not charge you until they are ready to ship your items. You don't need to have money on hand when a listing goes up unless you want to get the payment over and done with immediately. If someone missed either of the statues, it was entirely because they weren't paying attention to the store. There was plenty of time to preorder both.

As someone who does not like to order things if I do not have the money on hand at the time or order regardless of when a company charges for the purchase, again, I understand people not wanting to throw down $150 USD if they do not readily have it in their account. Especially since SE can be particularly finicky with chargebacks and knee-jerk banning accounts (store or game). I can't fault someone for not pre-ordering if they didn't have $150 extra already in their account; I won't pre-order unless I can set aside money to cover the purchase even if the retailer won't charge me until the day it ships. But perhaps my perspective is influenced by my own actions, and not everyone will think along the same lines as I do. Fair enough.

Sorry, but I am still not really seeing the reason to keep them exclusive. As I said, re-release merchandise (and release a high enough demand that it will not sell out in less than 12 hours), or implement these extras as log-in campaign rewards that people can get by just paying their monthly sub. Or Mogstation is always an option, but since the thread OP said to take it out of the equation, I wasn't considering them in my initial post.