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    Inflation of rewards to regular players has negative impacts on competition. Same what the inflation of money has negative impacts on the economy. You seem to have a problem with accepting the fact that there are negative consequences to making the rewards available to everyone.

    I can also just ignore your negative consequence of a ruined economy and keep touting how people who get the million dollars the hard way have a sense of accomplishment. As you can see it works both ways.

    You should just accept you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Inflation of rewards to regular players has negative impacts on competition. Same what the inflation of money has negative impacts on the economy. You seem to have a problem with accepting the fact that there are negative consequences to making the rewards available to everyone.

    I can also just ignore your negative consequence of a ruined economy and keep touting how people who get the million dollars the hard way have a sense of accomplishment. As you can see it works both ways.

    You should just accept you are wrong.
    Yeah if you had access to all the money in the world and made the choice to give everyone one million dollars you are within your right to ignore the consequences, even if the data shows that this would be foolish being as you are the one in charge of the worlds money supply not much I can do to stop you. Even this situation if my million lost all social / materialistic value it would still hold personal value, sure I would be upset about how the system has changed, but being as the powers that be made a choice only thing I can reasonable do is make a request for change and see what comes of it. I will however not let anyone detract from the personal value of my accomplishment because of how common it is. You are right though, end of the day I would still have my sense of accomplishment.

    You should accept that end of the day deep down you are the only person that can ever devalue what your top 100 reward represents. Just because Joe 1234 has the same mount as you does not mean to you personally that mount should have any less personal value to you. This is where we differ. I mean say if you had a fairly common degree, would you let the fact that your degree is common undermine the effort and skill you showed to receive said degree? I personally would hope not, since no one should sell themselves that short.

    In the end I doubt anything will ever result in request to offer an alternative means to obtain past ranked rewards even if it is just a simple reskin. I just wish more people would be forthright when it comes to the reason why they want the items to remain exclusive. Cause in the end nothing wrong for taking part in something simply for the bragging rights, or doing something for the chance to have something very few people can have. Either way I doubt we will ever see eye to eye on this since we simply do not share the values, you seem to have a a materialistic value centric view which I am in no place to judge another person value system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Even this situation if my million lost all social / materialistic value it would still hold personal value, sure I would be upset about how the system has changed
    Funny how you changed your tune and are now arguing the same point with money haha. Interesting how when you ignore the negative consequences your argument becomes the same exact thing as for the top 100 rewards huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    You should accept that end of the day deep down you are the only person that can ever devalue what your top 100 reward represents.
    Bold claim to make, and certainly not true. Plenty of people agree with me that the rewards should stay exclusive, there is no need for you to make up your talking points


    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I just wish more people would be forthright when it comes to the reason why they want the items to remain exclusive. Cause in the end nothing wrong for taking part in something simply for the bragging rights, or doing something for the chance to have something very few people can have.
    And there is nothing wrong with rewarding people for doing better and not people who don't. That's life. Just accept it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Funny how you changed your tune and are now arguing the same point with money haha. Interesting how when you ignore the negative consequences your argument becomes the same exact thing as for the top 100 rewards huh?

    Bold claim to make, and certainly not true. Plenty of people agree with me that the rewards should stay exclusive, there is no need for you to make up your talking points




    And there is nothing wrong with rewarding people for doing better and not people who don't. That's life. Just accept it
    Throughout all my posts where did I say it was not okay for someone to feel slighted if the system changed? Hell, I even said I understand were people are coming from when they want the change. I was using the money point since that is the only example you want to use. You have turned down college degrees, other items of value be it rewards, or car. So I went with your money point. Still your example only goes to show how it would effect the social / materialistic value of the accomplishment. I have never said that a change to the system would not do so.

    Also plently people agree with me, it is not hard to find agreement among people that share similar views. Also I have never said their was anything wrong with rewarding people for things others cannot do. All I am saying is I wish people would stop hiding behind claims like how common a reward is inherently detracts from the value one places on a item. That is not true, it detracts from the social / materialistic value but the personal value just that personal that is solely determined by the owner of the item. You really did not get anyone here. Why is it so hard to simply come out and say you simply want the rewards to remain exclusive because you enjoy the bragging rights that come with it. Nothing wrong with that mindset, not sure why you cannot just come out and say it.

    Please understand I do understanding why people want unique rewards, and nothing wrong with unique rewards. People are just making a request, in the end ball is always in SE court.
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    Last edited by Awha; 04-06-2018 at 10:11 AM.