JP Only

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

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@Bird, I think there's some characters that may be different. I recall a Chinese friend of mine read 祭 not as "festival"? I never got a second opinion, but I've moving forward with that in mind.

@Issac, one of my former colleagues could read and write English well, but speaking and being spoken to, there were strong language barriers. I started to understand how he spoke English, not just accent, but in meaning, and sometimes would translate English to English to and from some of our colleagues for him. When the issue was serious enough, a colleague would translate all issues to his native language.

@DNO and Antipika, I definitely see your point on the language expectation, i.e. buying a product in a country where language X is the primary language and expecting to receive services and support in said primary language. SE does provide services and support in English in this regard. The consumers of the product on the other hand, could vary.

Canceled my personal examples as they relate to the store or service provider not providing services in English in the U.S. providing a culture-neutral service (a recent game or formal attire). But these are not fellow consumers that might be discussing trends, bargains, or trading.

Edit: I wasn't fast enough, the battle spreads!

[DNO]

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@Bird, I think there's some characters that may be different. I recall a Chinese friend of mine read 祭 not as "festival"? I never got a second opinion, but I've moving forward with that in mind.

@Issac, one of my former colleagues could read and write English well, but speaking and being spoken to, there were strong language barriers. I started to understand how he spoke English, not just accent, but in meaning, and sometimes would translate English to English to and from some of our colleagues for him. When the issue was serious enough, a colleague would translate all issues to his native language.

@DNO and Antipika, I definitely see your point on the language expectation, i.e. buying a product in a country where language X is the primary language and expecting to receive services and support in said primary language. SE does provide services and support in English in this regard. The consumers of the product on the other hand, could vary.

Canceled my personal examples as they relate to the store or service provider not providing services in English in the U.S. providing a culture-neutral service (a recent game or formal attire). But these are not fellow consumers that might be discussing trends, bargains, or trading.

Edit: I wasn't fast enough, the battle spreads!

and you are correct. But my point is not to change SE minds.. they already agree with me as the are giving us different servers.

My point is that PLAYERS feel its ok to have "JP only" and its ok to take on another language (on my free to none the less) to play a VIDEO game on my free time? thats silly.

Also (edit

All other MMOS (most) have this feature already. FF11 and FF14 are the only ones that do not!!!
we are behind!

[Soukyuu]

My point is that PLAYERS feel its ok to have "JP only" and its ok to take on another language (on my free to none the less) to play a VIDEO game on my free time? thats silly.

That's not silly at all.
You want to play with English speaking players? Don't learn Japanese.
You want to play with people not speaking English? Learn theirs.

Why are you expecting them to learn English? They seem to be happy to be able to communicate with players of their language only.

Also (edit

All other MMOS (most) have this feature already. FF11 and FF14 are the only ones that do not!!!
we are behind!

I'm not sure what feature you are referring to, if it's the localized servers then...if international servers are that much of a problem for you, why did you start playing this game knowing the servers are not localized in the first place?

[DNO]

That's not silly at all.
You want to play with English speaking players? Don't learn Japanese.
You want to play with people not speaking English? Learn theirs.

Why are you expecting them to learn English? They seem to be happy to be able to communicate with players of their language only.

I'm not sure what feature you are referring to, if it's the localized servers then...if international servers are that much of a problem for you, why did you start playing this game knowing the servers are not localized in the first place?

this will be the last time i say this. its hard to talk to some of you.

I am NOT asking for JP to learn english....
I am not asking for English to learn JP (in fact if you read above before posting you would no i am sooo not for that)

All i am saying is actaully 2 fold
1. If we have to learn JP in the english version of a game its silly (Auto translate should be enough but sometimes for JP Only people it is not)

2. Make single speaking servers

So they can actually only have to speak one language and not cut off half the server. they will have more JP players and we will have more NA players instead of having both groups scattered among 8 different servers.

[Soukyuu]

1. If we have to learn JP in the english version of a game its silly

English version of the game? It's not. If it was, then we'd had a dedicated US or/and EU server.

The client is multilanguage and actually the default language is Japanese.
And my point was, no one is forcing you to learn Japanese. Just don't play with people not speaking English, what is the problem with that?

[DNO]

English version of the game? It's not. If it was, then we'd had a dedicated US or/and EU server.

The client is multilanguage and actually the default language is Japanese.
And my point was, no one is forcing you to learn Japanese. Just don't play with people not speaking English, what is the problem with that?

Really? so the game is not the english version? ok this ends here.

[Soukyuu]

Really? so the game is not the english version? ok this ends here.

Indeed, as you are being irrational and clearly not objective enough to see that international servers != english version.
Have a nice time of day.

[bird]

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@Bird, I think there's some characters that may be different. I recall a Chinese friend of mine read 祭 not as "festival"? I never got a second opinion, but I've moving forward with that in mind.

Similar. It has more of a "memorial ceremony" connotation to it.