What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Metsonm]

*most

Well, i don't have the statistics in front of me so didn't want to make any outlandish claims based on lack of evidence.

[Reynhart]

What are you carrying on about? there is i350 crafted gear

Don't want to spend millions on that since I have other things to buy.

there is 350 sigma normal gear

Weekly locked, 5 weeks to stuff only one job.

there is 360 limited tomestome gear (all of this takes less time invested in one sitting then diadem 3.0.

Weekly locked, 9 weeks to gear one job, without counting accessories.

So those may take less playtime, but they certainly requires more "time".

[Vstarstruck]

Don't want to spend millions on that

Weekly locked, 5 weeks to stuff one job.

Boycotting tome farming, and weekly locked, 9 weeks to gear one job, without counting accessories.

So those may take less playtime, but they certainly requires more "time".

You do realize it is faster to earn millions then it is to grind for these glams right?

I made 600 million gil when 4.2 in 1 week by crafting items, i had people gather for me etc. I highly doubt he use a third party program to craft, maybe he just very effective doing it? I mean, many times people accuse others for botting or cheating, because they can't do it on their own. Maybe those characters he has in the fc or players, gather for him?

edit: you can also bypass the 1k letters by edit your post.

just an example that is even stated here.

So those may take less playtime, but they certainly requires more "time".

No they don't, i guess maybe to people that do not know what they are doing.. i guess?

Weekly locked, 9 weeks to gear one job, without counting accessories.

So those may take less playtime, but they certainly requires more "time".

objection, diadem doesn't have right side.
The time limited stuff outperforms the diadem 3.0 glams and also you have no salutations for the right. so 600 M in a week can instantly get all 350 on all jobs with in a day with this rate, no one farmed the diadem glams that fast.

Well, i don't have the statistics in front of me so didn't want to make any outlandish claims based on lack of evidence.

ah, understandable.

Not using post quota:

He's right about them taking more time. 9 weeks on capped tomes times 13 jobs is well, years to gear them all with tomes.

Takes maybe a month in eureka.

I was not talking about 360 , i was talking about 350, it is clear what is being said so no hes wrong. (well I was talking about both but it was clear I was talking about 350 crafted to gear all jobs so this is becoming stawman.) Also a week of gil making to gear up all 350 is still quicker then your proposed month (even if the rate gets it done in a day, but selling stuff like that in one day may be hard but depends on the day you are talking about)

So my point stands, diadem 3.0 in its entirety is only for mounts, minions, and glams.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

He's right about them taking more time. 9 weeks on capped tomes times 13 jobs (or is it 15 now, I don't remember anymore) is well, years to gear them all with tomes.

Takes maybe a month in eureka.

As a reply, you stated locked 360 tome gear, in your post.

Also, not everyone can make 600mil in a week. That is a strawman too.

[Reynhart]

No they don't, i guess maybe to people that do not know what they are doing.. i guess?

What, you mean math ?

objection, diadem doesn't have right side.

Oh, my...
1000 for the weapon, 495 for head, hands and feet, 825 for body and legs, for a total of 4135 tomestones. Divide by 450, we have 9.1 weeks. Strange, it's almost as if I didn't count accessories and belt, especially because Eureka doesn't provide these.

Oh, and I don't like crafting, so I don't do it, this way, earning gear stays fun for me...

[Vstarstruck]

Also, not everyone can make 600mil in a week. That is a strawman too.

Oh no its not, don't even go there, it is choosing not to.

If people put in the same effort in gil making as they do with diadem farming, they would be pure i350 in all jobs quicker then one diadem 3.0 set.

What, you mean math ?

Oh, my...
1000 for the weapon, 495 for head, hands and feet, 825 for body and legs, for a total of 4135 tomestones. Divide by 450, we have 9.1 weeks. Strange, it's almost as if I didn't count accessories and belt, especially because Eureka doesn't provide these.

Oh, and I don't like crafting, so I don't do it, this way, earning gear stays fun for me...

that is for 360 gear, and it does not matter if you do not like it, it does not change the point diadem 3.0 in its entirety is only for mounts, minions, and glams. (thus contradictory to your joke you made earlier to me, that is why it was so funny) To think I was doing this as a side benefit to boost my ilevel, what a joke.

*note bold please. also its 144 vs 160, that is not game breaking compared to the crafted gear, you are not looking at the full picture when you say "Also, I think you are underestimating just how good 5 tier vi materia are at that ilvl, it beats out many 360 pieces for most of the jobs " it depends what the sub stats is on the diadem gear vs the crafted or 360 gear, and 360 gear gets +80 from melds. so having +80 more on something 10 ilevels less? there is more at work then simply having 5 VI materia, that or you did not include everything to draw such conclusions.

You at your finest :

And before you said it was a typo, there is no 350 tomestone stuff...and the 330 is not limited. Pick your bad faith.

See Alleo? this is why I dislike talking to people that like diadem 3.0, they will do anything to twist facts and things what is said. Also I will like to point out "You at your finest" this implies the post was meant to be an aggressive attack. Ill save some post quota so I can reply to you when you do.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Oh no its not, don't even go there, it is choosing not to.

If people put in the same effort in gil making as they do with diadem farming, they would be pure i350 in all jobs quicker then one diadem 3.0 set.

I had a full set of "diadem 3.0"gear in less than a week, while working full time and raiding 3 hours Tuesday and Wednesday after work. and that is mostly due to the leveling process taking time. It would take much longer to get enough gil to have all jobs at 350 with crafted gear, especially if one had to, you know, level all their crafter and gatherers, then gear them, then meld them. And at that point, you can make the gear yourself, which makes making the gil to buy the gear pointless.

It only took a day or so to get the next full set. I have 2 completed sets from eureka, and it only gets easier from there.

Also, I think you are underestimating just how good 5 tier vi materia are at that ilvl, it beats out many 360 pieces for most of the jobs


5 tier 6 material puts you +120 stats over 360 gear with melds. This can definitely bump you over a slight increase in main stats from 10 ilvls. I did my research, thanks for checking.

[Ruf]

He's right about them taking more time. 9 weeks on capped tomes times 13 jobs (or is it 15 now, I don't remember anymore) is well, years to gear them all with tomes.

Takes maybe a month in eureka.

As a reply, you stated locked 360 tome gear, in your post.

Also, not everyone can make 600mil in a week. That is a strawman too.

Correct,

9 weeks to gear one job, without counting accessories.

Far as I know tho antiquated armor doesn't include accessories.

I have all jobs, & as someone said,

For a game that loves you having multiple jobs on one character, it sure does hate you playing more than 1 or 2 roles at a time.

(I sense sarcasm)Anyway, the core restriction on capped lvl for all jobs on this game just make it like this, I accept that I cant keep all my job at highest item lvl, therefore I play what I can where I can & when I can & I gear what I like the most but theses comments are off topic, its not about the reward at all.

[Reynhart]

I was not talking about 360 , i was talking about 350, it is clear what is being said so no hes wrong.

You at your finest :

there is 360 limited tomestome gear

And before you said it was a typo, there is no 350 tomestone stuff...and the 330 is not limited. Pick your bad faith.

Far as I know tho antiquated armor doesn't include accessories.

See my previous reply, 9 weeks don't include accessories nor belt...that's why it's only 9..

that is for 360 gear, and it does not matter if you do not like it, it does not change the point Eureka in its entirety is only for mounts, minions, and glams.

That's where you're wrong, it does matter to me because Eureka gives me a mean to earn gear without doing things I don't like, like tome farming through roulettes, or crafting. You know, like I can skip what I don't consider fun for me...

See Alleo? this is why I dislike talking to people that like diadem 3.0, they will do anything to twist facts and things what is said. Also I will like to point out "You at your finest" this implies the post was meant to be an aggressive attack. Ill save some post quota so I can reply to you when you do.

Hilarious. You blatanly fail at calculating how many tomestones it requires, and now you act like a poor victim because I pointed how your calculation was wrong. "Your finest" is not tied to how aggressive you may or may not be, but simply that, when someone point a flaw in your speech, you dismiss it even when the proof is right here.

5 tier 6 material puts you +120 stats over 360 gear with melds. This can definitely bump you over a slight increase in main stats from 10 ilvls. I did my research, thanks for checking.

And let's not forget that, if it follows the trend of previous Relics, the Eureka gear will eventually catch up with their ilvl, before the melds.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

See Alleo? this is why I dislike talking to people that like diadem 3.0, they will do anything to twist facts and things what is said. Also I will like to point out "You at your finest" this implies the post was meant to be an aggressive attack. Ill save some post quota so I can reply to you when you do.

You do similar things, you know.

You called me a liar when I said it only took me 15 minutes to go from level 1 to level 2, and only 1 lockout to go from 1 to 5, without doing fates, when it took you 2 hours to get from 1 to 2. You said anyone would have to know about the fates to level that fast.

You have been just as aggressive towards people who disagree with you.