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  1. #51
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    Mirch's Avatar
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    I almost had the same problem, well I'm not as wealthy as you but i always keep my gil on the retainers so I don't get those "spend for useless stuff period" crisis, and the first retainer was full then I had to place on the second retainer.
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  2. #52
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    Raising a 1billion gil cap even though a character can store 1bil more in a company chest and 1bil on each retainer? Why?

    Definition of wealth is how much you have - this isnt just gil. I made my billions with MB manipulation. I buy massive hoards of saturated items, sit on them, and hopefully resell at higher demand. I imagine most with billions do the same thing.

    Keep it invested. 1bil gil is worthless - its not making you money sitting in your bottom right screen. You must invest it to have value. With 999 sitem stacks and a saddlebag now? All the easier to invest - stockpile mats/materia for updates, even try buying discontinued items - elemental materia just made that list. A few billion is a great amount of money, but by no means are you maxed out on wealth.
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    Last edited by Falling; 03-13-2018 at 01:31 PM.

  3. #53
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    Anabel Appelgreen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falling View Post
    Raising a 1billion gil cap even though a character can store 1bil more in a company chest and 1bil on each retainer? Why?

    Definition of wealth is how much you have - this isnt just gil. I made my billions with MB manipulation. I buy massive hoards of saturated items, sit on them, and hopefully resell at higher demand. I imagine most with billions do the same thing.

    Keep it invested. 1bil gil is worthless - its not making you money sitting in your bottom right screen. You must invest it to have value. With 999 sitem stacks and a saddlebag now? All the easier to invest - stockpile mats/materia for updates, even try buying discontinued items - elemental materia just made that list. A few billion is a great amount of money, but by no means are you maxed out on wealth.
    You dont seem to understand. I have around 13b right now.
    Regarding the rest of your post, no item in this game holds any gil value for too long. Not even houses. I know exactly how the system works, I could "invest" 3 billions of that in buying whatever you think is worth something from the MB, and I would still have no space to save the actual gil. Every piece of materia, allagan piece, minion and mount, expensive glamour included. Discontinued mats? sure, I already have tons of them saved just in case.
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    Last edited by Shalice_Icefrost; 03-13-2018 at 11:07 PM.

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    Technically, it would be a huge challenge (with some risks)

    Firstly, change the code (server and all clients) to handle a much larger number (assuming it's passed around as a 32 bit integer, then the max is 2.14 billion), going beyond that means using a 64 bit integer.

    Then the underlying database has to be taken offline, a new 64 bit variable created there, all the data migrated (which, depending on the database software, could mean a total dump and reload).

    Then when that's been completed, change the code to load and store it from the server software, pass it to the client from that now 64 bit server variable and finally spin everything back up again.

    So you're talking about every character and every retainer on every server needing data migrated from one variable(or column in RDBMS terms) to another one, with the risk that a coding slip-up or 'hiccup' would result in overflow setting a sign bit somewhere and turning someone's gill into a negative few billion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariannef View Post
    So you're talking about every character and every retainer on every server needing data migrated from one variable(or column in RDBMS terms) to another one, with the risk that a coding slip-up or 'hiccup' would result in overflow setting a sign bit somewhere and turning someone's gill into a negative few billion.
    Which is why any good programmer, IT person would have a backup of the known good version.
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  6. #56
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    Let’s do the liberal thing and take her wealth and give it to us people who don’t have it.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoazJochin View Post
    Let’s do the liberal thing and take her wealth and give it to us people who don’t have it.
    ever heared of Mansa Musa?
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    The reason you've had the kinds of responses you have, is because this proposed change benefits... pretty much just you.

    It'd be like me asking the devs to rename Thancred after me, and I don't need to give anyone a reason why I want that, I'm paying my subscription and I only get validation out of videogames when there's an NPC named after me.

    In addition, it's virtually a non-problem that there are ways around, and ways intended by SE to be used, but you're just outright refusing them because "reasons".
    So It's like I could just make my own character and name it after myself, because that's an option available to everyone, but no, I want it to be an NPC.

    Perhaps if you were willing to personally reimburse them for the effort in making this change, (I don't know, maybe $100,000 would cover it) then they might consider it.
    That should let you know how absurd a suggestion this really is, and explains why most people think you're just bragging, because the suggestion itself has no merit and the result is merely attention and announcing that you have literally all the gil in Eorzea.
    If you're not bragging, you may as well close this topic.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 03-30-2018 at 12:18 AM.

  10. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    The reason you've had the kinds of responses you have, is because this proposed change benefits... pretty much just you.
    Absurd or not, it is up to the players to request changes they would like. No matter even if it benefits one person or the masses, this is the place we are told to come request enhancements. Anyone who takes offense or interprets it as bragging is just way too damn sensitive. The OP has already clearly stated this is their motivation to play and as a paying subscriber if they cannot further that motivation then they lose the will to subscribe. Sure the OP could go buy items that can be placeholders for the cap but it takes away the primary motivation still.

    Imagine if gear increases didn't actually increase the damage you do. Instead it worked the opposite way. If you didn't gear up you would do less damage. For example, I hit level 50 wearing 45 gear and I do 500 damage to a level 50 creature. When I attack a level 45 creature I do 1000. The level 50 creatures don't have any more health than the level 45 and for me to increase my dps I have to gear up. Great so I get level 50 gear and now I am back to 1000. Great I am back on par to what I was doing before. New patch comes out with a new iLvl and I am back to doing 500 damage until I can get the new ilvl gear to get back up to 1000. My DPS potential is capped at 1000. I can't do anymore but I can do less without proper gear. If this continued even to SB from ARR, the raiders and players would be furious. We like big numbers. They are satisfying and for the OP the number they care about is how much is in their bank.

    So while you may deem it unreasonable or absurd this again is their primary motivation and it is no less bragging than the person who shows off the recent pony or World First. It is an accomplishment just like getting a world first clear. The amount of time the OP invested to get to the gil cap in the first place.
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    Speaking of vendor trash, rather than asking for a gil cap increase, why not ask for a shop that sells exchangeables? Could even seek new exchangeables to be made available only from that shop. Items are sold at exactly same price they are bought back for, stackable, untradeable, and serve no other purpose in the game. The items can be flagged for server transfers - no transfers with any in your possession. With that in place, sky's the limit without overhauling the entire system coding. The top exchangeable could be 100mil each. 99 stack is 9.9bil. 999 stack? 99.9bil. All in one inventory space. All done by only creating one vendor selling one item. Tailor to other people by making similar items with different exchangeable amounts.

    Make items like those and you'll never reach the max wealth - servers will die first.

    Only problem? SE's intentions. They might not want you to be able to attain more wealth. If thats the case, you best keep finding workarounds.
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