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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    I make those arguments to show contradictions in your arguments, not that you are ever going to admit it anyway. You like to cite cheating as if it's a good reason to make these rewards available to you over and over again. However, there is cheating all over the place in this game, whether it is Paid Savage content, Script Cheating, RMT or w.e. But it's obvious that the overall game design isn't created TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE CHEAT.
    All I've ever said is that I'd like the rewards to be attainable again (it has been what, two years?) but over time. It's a reward that a lot of people would like to work toward. Want to keep it in Feast or PVP in general? I have no problem with that. But don't act like everyone on the top 100 of the leaderboards across every data center is some shining beacon of skill, because they are not.

    Many are, but many are not. And if I were you, I wouldn't want to be lumped with a bunch of people who win-traded, hacked and generally made a mockery of the ranking system. Just because "everybody does it", doesn't make it okay.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    But don't act like everyone on the top 100 of the leaderboards across every data center is some shining beacon of skill, because they are not.
    For the most of it, just patience and time to be able to sit throught queues.
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    I'll let quotes speak from here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    Want to keep it in Feast or PVP in general? I have no problem with that. But don't act like everyone on the top 100 of the leaderboards across every data center is some shining beacon of skill, because they are not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantrus View Post
    And arguing whether top 100 is a skill achievement or a time committed achievement doesn't invalidate as a means of rewarding effort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    Many are, but many are not. And if I were you, I wouldn't want to be lumped with a bunch of people who win-traded, hacked and generally made a mockery of the ranking system. Just because "everybody does it", doesn't make it okay.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantrus View Post
    And so far the arguments against the legitimacy of top 100 have been a joke. Cheaters don't affect top 100; there's a reason the hacker who rhymes with Bount Crusef had to resort to win trading when hacking movement speed and cast times couldn't even get him diamond. Win traders do get top 100, but their effect has been vastly overblown. There have only been 2 successful win traders that high on the Aether ladder because it takes so much effort to win trade several throwing characters up the ladder to even get into matches with the main, and they have to go through several precautions to not get caught. But their existence doesn't invalidate the achievement because their effect is the same as if the reward was top 98 instead, which is pretty much the same system unless you're the two people shut out. If you're one of those two then come back and I'll concede that you got screwed.
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    The feast reward should remain only in ranked mode for a limited time, however there is absolutely no valid reason for it to be just the top 100, SE could make it top 200 or even top 300 and players will still be battling it out for position to get the rewards. As of right now there is an incredible amount of players with alts in the top 100 and SE have shown they care very little to make improvements on the feast game mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    All I've ever said is that I'd like the rewards to be attainable again
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    But don't act like everyone on the top 100 of the leaderboards across every data center is some shining beacon of skill, because they are not.
    >Says he ONLY wants them to be attainable again in the future
    >Tries to say why it shouldn't be top 100 reward as always

    You don't care about it being obtainable or not, you only really care that you are unable to be good enough for top 100 so you want SE to basically provide it to you for free lol
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    Last edited by Aviars; 04-04-2018 at 12:57 AM.

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