What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Skeldron]

Most of the story is soloable, and in lore there is only one WoL, so this game does have a lot of solo stuff for being a MMO. Thinking that everything has to be in a group is silly in this game.

You had to do a ton of dungeons/primae to progess in story WITH a grp
Many players in my guild or in newbee chat are complaining they cant find anyone to complete their story quest dungeons, cause everyone is in eureka

[Aronys]

You had to do a ton of dungeons/primae to progess in story WITH a grp
Many players in my guild or in newbee chat are complaining they cant find anyone to complete their story quest dungeons, cause everyone is in eureka

Hence why I said "most". I know you had to do some things in a group, but there were instances you didn't need a group for. A true MMO only game wouldn't have those at all.

[Skeldron]

Hence why I said "most". I know you had to do some things in a group, but there were instances you didn't need a group for. A true MMO only game wouldn't have those at all.

I just wanted to state most pepole just wanna complain cause they wanna complain. Massively Multiplayer Online ... what word didnt they understand when they purchased the game? Its like taking a shower and complaining you got wet

[Fynlar]

Just because this is a MMO doesn't mean people want to be completely powerless to do ANYTHING of consequence unless it's in a group.

That's pretty much what old school FFXI was like, and while some people might have dug that, it was... certainly not an approach for everyone. It's why some people took up jobs like Beastmaster.

[BillyKaplan]

We have crafting and gathering, two entire systems (three if you split FSH vs. BTN/MIN) that are by definition solo-play. Job quests are 100% solo play. Just because this is an MMO doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to go to the bathroom alone.

[Skeldron]

Just because this is a MMO doesn't mean people want to be completely powerless to do ANYTHING of consequence unless it's in a group.

That's pretty much what old school FFXI was like, and while some people might have dug that, it was... certainly not an approach for everyone. It's why some people took up jobs like Beastmaster.

I'm still able to kill stuff on my own in eureka, but i dont do it, why should I? I didnt purchase FF XIV to play it solo. You can play Monopoly solo on PC, but is it any fun? They added multiplayer content to a multiplayer game, and people are complaing (you can still solo it though, keep in mind) .. whats next? I cant solo Sigma Savage qq?
As i already stated, eureka has many flaws u can criticise (i still enjoy it), but the fact you criticise a MMO for requiring a party is just hilarious. If you critique an ice-hockey team because they play ice-hockey u missed the point.

[Reynhart]

Which actually begs the question of why the frick even do that in the first place, doesn't it?

Because this allows you to enter solo and build a party once inside. This is the only instance where you can drop and join parties while staying i the instance. And that's a big difference.

No I have no exact quote to this but I do remember that they said that you can do it solo even if its not recommended.

Let's look at the bigger picture. This is a max level content that drop gear on par with extreme primal drops and higher than normal raid drops. Considering those absolutey requires a party to even participate, let alone get a reward, I'd say that Eureka can probably be considered the most "solo friendly end-game" content.

Unles you're ready to farm all your tomestones with hunts and daily quests...

[Galaktica]

I just wanted to state most pepole just wanna complain cause they wanna complain.

People complain because they care. No one pays a sub just so they can hate on this game. Saying "people just want to complain for the hell of it" is dismissive and is willfully ignoring the reasons for said complaints. If someone has an issue with this game, what are they supposed to do? Not complain?

[Skeldron]

People complain because they care. No one pays a sub just so they can hate on this game. Saying "people just want to complain for the hell of it" is dismissive and is willfully ignoring the reasons for said complaints. If someone has an issue with this game, what are they supposed to do? Not complain?

I never said ppl shouldnt complain about things. I just stated people shouldnt blame a mmo for requiring a grp to do stuff. If u criticise a left/right wing party, criticse them for what they are doing wrong .. dont critcise them because they are left/right winged.
A MMO should be a group content game with an OPTION to do stuff solo .. not a solo game with an option to do stuff in a group.
There are many brilliant solo games out there .. do u blame them for not having multiplayer content?

[Fynlar]

We have crafting and gathering, two entire systems (three if you split FSH vs. BTN/MIN) that are by definition solo-play. Job quests are 100% solo play. Just because this is an MMO doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to go to the bathroom alone.

Yeah, no. I'm talking about *combat* content that is reasonably soloed, not "HELM" crap.

Job quests are extremely finite and don't really count. When Eureka hit, my job quests were all 100% done.

I'm still able to kill stuff on my own in eureka, but i dont do it, why should I? I didnt purchase FF XIV to play it solo. You can play Monopoly solo on PC, but is it any fun? They added multiplayer content to a multiplayer game, and people are complaing (you can still solo it though, keep in mind) .. whats next? I cant solo Sigma Savage qq?
As i already stated, eureka has many flaws u can criticise (i still enjoy it), but the fact you criticise a MMO for requiring a party is just hilarious. If you critique an ice-hockey team because they play ice-hockey u missed the point.

I can and will criticize a MMO that forces you to group to do anything of consequence. Again, it was a valid critique many people had with FFXI in the early going and is why it was gradually eased up on (up until recent years where we got the Trust system that more or less replaces actual PCs for most things other than the hardest content). Even then, there are still trivial activities that for some reason still arbitrarily require a group of 3 PCs just to attempt, which is just silly nowadays and definitely earns my critique.