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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    SE approves this, you turn in 500 Anemos Crystals, get 500 Protean Crystals. You immediately regret your decision.

    Basically if they did this they'd need to remove RNG from the exchange or stuff like that can happen.
    No they don't. Right now there's a function that gets called when you press the button to turn one in, that calculates how many you get in the trade. Assuming it's called TurnInOneCrystal, then super basic code to do that for an arbitrary number looks like this:

    Code:
    public int TurnInLotsOfCrystals(int quantity)
    {
    	int totalCrystals = 0;
    	for (int i = 0; i < quantity; i++) 
    	{
    		totalCrystals += TurnInOneCrystal();
    	}
    	return totalCrystals;
    }
    Production code would need to check that you have that many, do error handling, be better optimized, and such. But the logic is not at all complicated and doesn't require altering the premise of how things work at all. Want to do 500 turn ins? Call the RNG 500 times.

    While it would be possible to turn in 500 and get 500, it'd happen at exactly the same rate it can happen right now. Nothing changes except you don't have an idiotic grind to do turn ins due to poor UI.
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    Last edited by Tridus; 03-18-2018 at 07:54 PM.

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    Can we apply this to lockboxes too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Can we apply this to lockboxes too?
    The boxes might be a different story though, like, will you have enough inventory to hold all those equipments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    I'm down to 2,444 crystals to hand in and I'm wearing muh x button out.
    B-but MUH RNG!!!

    Jokes aside, This and the lockboxes are a huge problems in my list that should be fixed asap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    The boxes might be a different story though, like, will you have enough inventory to hold all those equipments.
    Perhaps then an additional statement could be added that if the inventory hasn't got enough room, it automatically stops processing lockboxes? I'm sure that logic already exists elsewhere in the game but I cannot for the life of me remember where.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    I've asked for this as well on a couple of the other Eureka threads as even at hundreds of crystals and boxes turn in is grinding on steroids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    The boxes might be a different story though, like, will you have enough inventory to hold all those equipments.
    The boxes wouldn't have to be any different than the current process. All you do is have a second process call the main lockbox routine in a loop and exit when done or the inventory is full.
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    Last edited by Claviusnex; 03-18-2018 at 09:40 PM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Perhaps then an additional statement could be added that if the inventory hasn't got enough room, it automatically stops processing lockboxes? I'm sure that logic already exists elsewhere in the game but I cannot for the life of me remember where.
    Lockboxes are slightly more difficult in that with the crystals, the UI doesn't have to change except to say "how many do you want to process?" The result is always a number of crystals, so it doesn't matter if it's 3 or 300.

    For the lockboxes, the UI has to give you a list of what comes out, because it could be multiples of different types of things. Hardly insurmountable, but there's more UI work required to do it than there is with the crystals.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    For the lockboxes, the UI has to give you a list of what comes out, because it could be multiples of different types of things. Hardly insurmountable, but there's more UI work required to do it than there is with the crystals.
    The existing rtn already tells you what you are getting. If they want to be quick and dirty all they have to do is wrap it in a do while loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    SE approves this, you turn in 500 Anemos Crystals, get 500 Protean Crystals. You immediately regret your decision.

    Basically if they did this they'd need to remove RNG from the exchange or stuff like that can happen.
    They give 2-5 right now change it to give a static 3 and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    They give 2-5 right now change it to give a static 3 and be done with it.
    It does idd feels like that 3 is the average you get out of them
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