What's your first impression of Eureka?

[PonifiedBeast]

I still wonder if they'll ever implement something like Daily Quests or Hunts to Eureka to make things at least more enjoyable, give an alternative to Zerging everything. Grinding anything that doesn't spawn a NM is pointless.

[Penthea]

I still wonder if they'll ever implement something like Daily Quests or Hunts to Eureka to make things at least more enjoyable, give an alternative to Zerging everything. Grinding anything that doesn't spawn a NM is pointless.

My impression is that this step is about accessing the situation and getting the aethernet working again. So when we find out more we'll be given far more direct and decisive tasks in the future.

While I do enjoy Eureka I admit it would be very dull if each step was like the first.

[kite384]

hm to the people that say look how many people on jp forums dont like it the only thing i see is that a small percentage of the playerbase think eureka is bad
i am level 8 now and i personally still enjoy it

[Riardon]

I don't mind something that needs a lot of time or be grindy as Euraka is as long as the reward reflects the pain doing it.
As it is now the Relic will be already outdated once we get it. What's the point doing something like this when the weapon will be useless in just 1 month or even less.
Yoshi needs to rethink XIV's gear progression.
On the positive side of things. Well they tried to do something with Eureka. It's the only content in this game that feels really dangerous and a whole FC can participate.
I like how everyone needs to work with all the rest to do it. It needs some fixes though.
Like please for the love of Hydealyn pls fix the graphic engine issue where it can't display more than X amount of objects/NPCs despite having the hardware to do so.
NM's are disappearing in front of you and party members as well making it really difficult to target a party member. NMs and party members must be top priority to display then all the rest of objects/NPCs/PCs.

[Reinha]

People that don't like Eureka can't catch a break on this.

If people complain they went in for a bit and hated it, they get told they didn't do enough of it so their feelings to the content are wrong. THEN they go in and bother doing it because they're being pushed that not doing it means they don't know how it is, and now they're getting told because they're doing it they MUST like it.

That's my experience with the wonderful Novice network. "Oh look at all the complaining, but where is everyone? Oh in Eureka" Ya maybe because people keep telling us our opinion on content doesn't matter until we do enough to warrent its own plat trophy on PlayStation...

Good old moving goalposts. It happens every time people try to offer feedback, apparently even in a thread asking for first impressions.

"It's only a preview, we don't even have the details yet."
"It's only patch notes, you haven't even tried it in game."
"It's only been a few days, wait until we discover everything / the population stabilizes / hotfixes are applied."
...eventually culminating in:

For everyone that's saying "oh, two weeks have passed and my queues are still fine, that means that this solution is Working As Intended!", let's see if the same thing is happening after a year, if that.

It is not worth responding to anyone who tries to dismiss feedback based on when it was given, because there will always be someone who thinks it's the wrong time for feedback.

[Alleo]

I am going to call you make up the fact. I read/write Japanese and I am pretty sure that ongoing discussion in Japanese forum is mix of positive, negative, and request for a better player search interface. Did I ever said majority of players loved Eureka? I only said people dislike the Eureka do not represent the FF14 player base.

つまらないです

これおもしろいんですか？
開発者さん？

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一時間程度ソロで遊んでみた感想です。

すごく眠たくなりました。
延々と木人でスキル回ししている感じです

これ、面白いんですか？何に面白さを見出したら良いか、悩みを抱えたまま今日はログアウトしました。人を選びそうなコンテンツですね。

限られた開発リソースは今後このコンテンツに割かれていくのでしょうか？

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まさかレベリング70まで終わったのにまたレベリングさせられるとは。
しかもNM一択と言わざるを得ない程の経験値の少なさ、報酬の無さ、爽快感の無さ、時間をひたすら食い潰すコンテンツでしょうか。
ハッキリと現状と今後の致命的な問題点をあげます。

単純に面白くないです。
空島で散々フィードバックされた問題点を一切解決していない、ただの逆ゴリランドでしかありません。

レベリングに時間かかりすぎです。
時間が限られた方には既に絶望的であり、後発がこんな時間のかかるコンテンツに来るはずがありません。

費やす時間に対して得られるものが無さ過ぎます。
DDや空島でもトークンがもらえましたが、エウレカではモブを倒さない限りありません。


これだけの苦行の末に待っている報酬は零式より下位なワケですよね。

申し訳ないですが、何一つ魅力を感じません。

早急に手を入れるようお願いしたいです。

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もう直球で書きます

これ本当にテストしたんですか？して面白かったんですか？
申し訳ありませんがハクスラをする上での報酬も不味ければハクスラだけをしろと言わないばかりですね。
正直運営が空島から何を学ばれてきたのか分かりません（これが一番言いたかった）
エウレカに2時間かけるなら別の事に時間かけるほうが私は有意義だと感じました。

ハクスラゲー色々しましたけどどのゲームよりも苦痛ですよ
ゲームで苦行「だけ」を味わうならしたくないになるのは普通かと

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今までのどのコンテンツよりも出遅れて何も出来ない感が凄い。
実際募集も集まらないshoutしても入れない、ソロで狩り続けるかNM待ちしか出来ないとても退屈で窮屈な世界です。
実装後三日で感じた事です。もう少し後続も気軽に遊べるよう工夫して貰いたかったです。

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EL9まできたので武器強化クエとしての感想を

正直、当初思ったほどキツくありません。アネモスクリスタルを乱属性クリスタルに変換すると平均4個ほど乱属性クリスタルを入手できますし、徐々に狩場が高レベル帯へ移行したことでNMからのアネモスクリスタルも入手数増えましたし、雑魚の乱属性クリスタルもチェーンつなげて泥アップ状態にすると高確率で落としてます。（70％以上くらいか？）今現在、既に防具1部位染色可能な数のクリスタルを持っています。
この先も入手数どんどん増えそうなので、EL20ベースで見るとそれほど大変ではないと思われます。


ただですね、初めてエウレカ突入して、ゲロさんに話してクリスタル必要数を見て、クルルちゃんから乱属性1つ持ってこいと言われ雑魚を狩ってみる、しかし全然落とさない・・・
この時プレイヤーはどう思いますかね？私はキッツいなあと思いましたね、こんなの完成させられるのかと、このドロップ率で
NMを倒しまくりアネモスクリスタルを大量入手できる今だからこそそれほど大変ではないなと思えますが、最初の段階で心折れるプレイヤーがいても当然だと思います。

たしかアートマかアニムス実装の時に吉田Pが、「最初から大きな山を見せてしまうとプレイヤーの皆さんのやる気がなくなってしまうのでまずはアートマまで」みたいな事を言っていたと思うのですが、今回まさに一番始めの段階でプレイヤーに山を見せつけている状態になっています・・・

ちょっとやり方が下手過ぎますね、導入部の失敗のせいで必要以上に武器強化がキツく見えてしまっていますね

103 likes and it talks how its a bit easier to get crystals but how this is bad motivation for newcomers because they see the huge amount that is needed.

あの改善した空島からの更にフィードバックをうけて延期してまで作ってでこれなのでもうテコ入れも改善もしなくていいです
続編もいらないですしもうこういうタイプのコンテンツはいらないです

77 likes and says that they dont need anything of this type anymore.

つい先程、初めてデスペナを食らってみました。
現在のELが8。
受けたデスペナ経験値がなんと12,916という莫大な損失でした。
FATE3〜4回分ですね。

シグマ零の消化終わって一応通ってますが
本当に何一つ魅力を感じません。
かかる労力、時間、手間・・・
それに対するリターンは今の所花火とアネモス装備くらいでしょうか。
今後といっても武具を作ったところで零より弱いんですよね・・・？

膨大な時間かけてただ雑魚を狩り続ける行為の何が楽しいんでしょうか。
ストーリー見たさにこの苦行を耐え抜く自信は私にはありません。

是非、私にこのコンテンツの正しい楽しみ方を教えてください。

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昨日ちょっとやったけど、予想以上に糞過ぎてもうやる気起きません。
「オールドファンをディスるためにやってるんじゃないか」と思えるほど糞仕様満載で、
予想を上回るほどの糞加減にもう吐き気がします。

あとはこのコンテンツを回避するために、武器強化とか派生で何も絡ませないでほしい。
こんな糞コンテンツに押し込められたクルルさんがかわいそう。ゲロルトは別にいいですｗ

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All of this are from this thread:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...14-エウレカ/page11

Only after page 6 have you the recent impressions since before that was before the release. So please show me a handfull of truly positive posts that have at least these amount of likes. I did not translate the smaller ones with barely any likes, maybe those are positive? But if only a couple of them are even liked and those negative ones have a high amount doesnt that just show that they are more negative?

Don't know if its been stated here yet or anything but yeah people are already lvl 20 and have at least one anemos weapon in 3-4 days and not spoiling anything but its pretty easy to grind multiple weapons in a short time once again the community has overreacted.

Oh Savage was cleared in one day too its probably easy right? And didnt the relic itself always get finished by some in a few days or even one? These who are already at lvl 20 and have the weapon are those that plays a really big amount of time. You cant simply say that this is a good way to show that its easy. (And lets not forget that the relic gear set is part of the relic quest too, so maybe we will see how long it takes someone to get both of them on max level)

The lvl 20 NM seems to need a specific weather and time to spawn so this is not for casuals. You need a huge amount of luck to be online when those two are meet.

So apparently it's not cool to be annoyed when people judge something they know next to nothing about. And it's not cool to say it's fine if they don't like it if they tried it properly.

Wtf...

Starting to feel like my input is deemed unworthy if I don't hate Eureka.

: /

And yet people that like it are allowed to just judge it at first glance? Why must one side play it for x hours before being allowed to dislike it and others can just post that they liked it after being there once and thats fine? Its not that its unworthy but the problem is that some of those that like it seemingly post in there to say that WE have no right to complain, that WE should play it a longer time to judge, that WE do it wrong somehow because we dont enjoy it or more. Some of those posters in here say that hating on it is a meme. You also said that its bad that people judge it on their first impressions even though this is the thread for first impressions..and a lot of use also have done more than one run and still dislike it.

Not everyone has to run it x times to see if its something for them to like or not. And yet those are just told that they are not allowed to be negative about because of that. It really feels more that some (not everyone!) does not accept that content that they like is not very well liked on the forum and thus see it somehow as a personal attack. Its not!

[Gun-Cat]

The only reason I am bothering with this is because I am afraid SE will lock actually good stuff behind this, and being left behind in Eureka level wise seem to be a awful proposition. This is such a lackluster experience and, to no ones surprise, degenerated quickly into NM zerging being the most efficient way of doing things.

[otarolgam]

Look, I tried it for 15 minutes of fighting, and... it didn't really hook me. Granted, it was just a white mage and me. Probably would have been better if I had been in a larger group. But I absolutely hate the whole "lfg I'm a blah blah blah..." schtick. Dunno why they couldn't just group people up as we head on in.

[Fynlar]

Read my whole post. I said loads of people complained when they had no clue about the most efficient way to play. Some of these people had no clue how fates spawned.

My point is a lot of players complained about content when they didn't even know how it worked. And that was very annoying to see.

Let's be real here, nothing really changes at any level in this content. If someone is already friggin bored by level 2, what makes you think they wouldn't be at level 20? You'll still be doing the exact same thing; farm trash until FATE appears, kill FATE, repeat. Not even our playstyle changes as we level, because we're still "level 70" the entire way through. When we level normally we at least get new abilities and such and have to alter our rotations to remain optimal as we progress. Here, your rotation never changes, your abilities remain constant, everything remains stagnant. It's just plain uninspired, and there is no sugarcoating that.

Sometimes in video games, at low levels you don't have much you can do but you at least know that as you progress you will have other sorts of activities to look forward to. Here, you don't even get that. It's the same farm trash, kill NM cycle.

[Kohdo]

I was pretty skeptical at first, but the more I play of it, the more I enjoy it. Hunting NMs with a group of friends is a lot of fun. It's pretty obvious that solo play isn't really viable though.