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  1. #131
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namida-Hikari View Post
    The fate train? You mean those 85% of players camping watching Netflix while the others 15% are killing mobs of the area for them so they can participate to the fate? So much fun indeed....
    Well that wasn't my experience of it. Everyone was going nuts for the combat. It was great.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Are you implying that 1.0 was.. good?
    Re-reading I can see how I should have worded it a bit better.

    Back during the beta on the forums whenever I, or others, mentioned the shortfalls of the game and how there was fundamental system issues we got screamed to "Don't play if you don't like it". I'm seeing a lot of the same rhetoric and arguments from then as I am now for Eureka. And the big implication being they were wrong then just as they were now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunenori View Post
    No he's implying that blind defenders of a game create a situation like 1.0 by stomping out discussion. The last thing a developer wants is for their players to be told to leave and that they aren't wanted by zealous members of the player base. Remember, this is video games! They're trying to create something fun and improve their product, and the only way to do that is with feedback. That said, ideally feedback is a little more detailed than "I don't like ______" so that developers can better know where to look.
    Exactly this. Thanks.

    You put it better than I managed to stutter out.
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    Last edited by Kaonis; 03-16-2018 at 10:20 AM.

  3. #133
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namida-Hikari View Post
    The fate train? You mean those 85% of players camping watching Netflix while the others 15% are killing mobs of the area for them so they can participate to the fate? So much fun indeed....
    I should try Eureka, so I can binge watch Jessica Jones.
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  4. #134
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Well that wasn't my experience of it. Everyone was going nuts for the combat. It was great.
    Didn't you know? People aren't allowed to have fun in Eureka. Fun isn't subjective and you can only like one kind of fun (which isn't Eureka).

    I actually like Eureka, as it gives me something to do that isn't just Expert Roulette once a day and maybe Rabanastre if I feel like it. I should probably get around to doing Sigmascape normal but eh.
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  5. #135
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    Give us EX trials we cant beat in 4 pulls with no guide
    Fix your normal mode raid difficulty its to easy and savage should be savage not semi- cupcake difficulity.
    Funny this is coming from a player that only cleared O1S and O2S, like always.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    Re-reading I can see how I should have worded it a bit better.

    Back during the beta on the forums whenever I, or others, mentioned the shortfalls of the game and how there was fundamental system issues we got screamed to "Don't play if you don't like it". I'm seeing a lot of the same rhetoric and arguments from then as I am now for Eureka. And the big implication being they were wrong then just as they were now.



    Exactly this. Thanks.

    You put it better than I managed to stutter out.
    Appreciate the further context. I don't think Alleo is arguing that you should "just not play". Just that someone posting that they're NOT going to play anymore IS feedback and people are saying "OK LOL BYE" as if it's not. It's not very specific but the OP did specify that they didn't like just "mob mashing" which is an example of the undesired content they're avoiding. It's not super constructive, but it's got points.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunenori View Post
    The last thing a developer wants is for their players to be told to leave and that they aren't wanted by zealous members of the player base.
    No the last thing a dev wants is losing the majority of the playerbase. While its better for them if nobody tell someone else to quit, they most likely don't care about 0.01% of the playerbase telling 0.001% of the playerbase to quit.
    I mean come on do you really think the last thing you would want if you were a dev is Sesera telling Darty123 to leave?
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    No the last thing a dev wants is losing the majority of the playerbase. While its better for them if nobody tell someone else to quit, they most likely don't care about 0.01% of the playerbase telling 0.001% of the playerbase to quit.
    I mean come on do you really think the last thing you would want if you were a dev is Sesera telling Darty123 to leave?
    That might be the most pedantic post I've ever seen. At that, if we're going to nitpick, I'm pretty sure the last thing a developer wants is to die a painful death.

    This was fun! I'm glad we could really get to the bottom of things.
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  9. #139
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Many people who were hanging on by a thread viewed Eureka as a make it or break it point for them. They desperately wanted new content, something different than the same thing we have been getting each expansion and patch. They even accepted less dungeons, smaller raids, and fewer side quests to get the new, innovative content. When they saw that it was essentially Diadem 3.0, they were crestfallen, heartbroken and exasperated. The final thread broke, they all came here and to Reddit to vent and while some will leave, others will go dormant until 5.0. They wont trust the rest of the 4.X series because it will probably be more of the same unless a miracle occurs.

    The way things are starting to look now, I am VERY worried about the future of this game. If this was a cruise ship, you'd see people starting to mingle around the lifeboats, most not ready to get on, but definitely making sure they know where they are. Translated: Many people are looking for other games now, whether they come back is up to the devs to figure out what innovative gameplay the community wants.

    If only they had a method of polling the community... if only...
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  10. #140
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    Ayer Austen
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    In 3 days of play my FC group and myself have 3 +3 weapons and are well on our way to lv20.... People are making Eureka out to be far more of a grind than it really is. Learn how to spawn NM and kill them for xp and crystals. I've had more conversations on discord thanks to Eureka than in months prior to this content.
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