What's your first impression of Eureka?

[NovaLevossida]

All I'm saying is that if your hands hurt here, your Hands must hurt in pretty much every other content, because the amount of buttons you spam per minute is the same.

Yes, per minute, but no, not the same over a long period of time.

And yes, you absolutely can take a break. But no, thoughtless content designed to be primed for carpal tunnel isn't well-designed content.

[ForctyusGold]

Oh you mean tools the game already has but for some reason felt like not utilizing in this instance. God I hope those designers were compensated by their effort that they clearly didn't put in

i guess, they do it on purpose

[ChocoFeru]

I wouldnt call this variety. You are literally sitting in one spot gathering mobs, burning them down to spawn NM only to kill it and then start back over and do the same thing.

It's literally botting and exact thing we were doing in Diadem 1.0 and Diadem 2.0

The old relic system had you do fates in the open world and then run dungeons and at least with dungeons there was variety.

If you can call "variety" re-doing lvl 15-60 dungeons that you already spammed before... :/

I find more interesting Eureka, having a new level and elemental system, and a map that you actually feel powerless and have to take care when running around. There's not a single dangerous map on FFXIV, except Eureka. You can teleport or ignore maps at lower levels, but in Eureka you have to be careful of your surroundings.

Maybe if you can actually provide proper opinions I might actually start caring enough to supply more of an argument.

Also reflect that back onto you. You've basically been ignoring every criticism, constructive or otherwise with the "Stop memeing and get better!" retort

Then this proves you didn't even read my other replies, and I'm not going to repeat myself just because you refused to read this thread.

I'm glad we found the problem here

Oh you mean tools the game already has but for some reason felt like not utilizing in this instance. God I hope those designers were compensated by their effort that they clearly didn't put in

I'll reply you again! You can make a Partyfinder before joining Eureka, or you can join Eureka alone and then make a party there.
You don't even need to shout, you can open the Party tab, and there will be a new tab inside that shows you every player on that map and who's looking for party (you have a new member status as well, a "looking for party" one)

If nothing else works, then yeah, shout.

[Petori]

It's quite horrible. Your only goal there is to kill same trash mobs as efficiently as possible and then kill the NM/Fate when they spawn. Elemental leveling has no real meaning, just to unlock quests so you get more Magicite which just give a % increase to your damage/defense. But you don't actually feel any stronger since the higher level enemies are tuned to the "progression". So Eureka feels like "Kill mob A for hours to level up so you can kill mob B for hours". Not exactly motivating.

Few things I would personally implement to make it more interesting:

Elemental Actions: Spend Magia Aether to perform powerful moves. You learn more moves as your elemental level rises.

You know why I enjoy leveling in games? You feel like you're growing and learning new moves which gives you small milestones between levels. Eureka leveling at the moment is one the most unsatisfying processes I have ever done.

Eureka exclusive gear: Earn and use Eureka exclusive gear with special stats!

Instead of syncing our ilvl to 300 and calling it a day, let's add a new gear progression system inside this new game mode. Gear with special Eureka only stats like Haste, Counter, Double/Triple Attack and more. Let's finally try out a vertical gear progression in this separate, new game mode.

Treasure Chests

Instead of Chain Kills only increasing drop chances of Crystals. Mobs drop treasure chests that contain above-mentioned gear and other valuables. Maybe even some Eureka treasure maps?

Eureka Dungeon Raid

Add a randomized dungeon kinda like PotD but built more like an actual dungeon. Starts easy and gets harder further you progress. You gain more XP and Crystals further you get. Daily or weekly or opened with a special portal dropped from loot. Dunno which is best for balance.

Level Sync

Helps to bridge the cap between friends who progress at different pace and still want to play together.

Daily or Weekly quests for XP and Crystals

Obvious stuff. Even a slight break from grinding the mobs helps.

Those are just on top of my head. Which makes me confused how long it took them to develop what we got

[Sieben79]

The problem with old relics is that it felt unnoriginal. They made you do content that you already did before.

In Eureka you start from level 1 aiming to level 20, and yeah, you have to grind to level 20. You can choose to level up grinding mobs or popping NMs (FATEs) and, for now, there's nothing else.

We'll see at level 20, but I still think this is a good start and that SE can improve the next Relic steps. We just need constructive opinions instead of the typical "unsubbing" posts (not blaming you for that).

And this is the thing what disturb me: I'll do nothing else than spawning the NM by chainstreak specific trashmobs. This is a two step grind until I have the gear I want for a specific Job. At level 20 you'll chainstrike level 21-22 trashmobs to spawn a 21-22 NM for sure. There won't be something else. That's it. and all in the same area.

The old HW relic first step was gather 6 crystals from each Heavensward area through Fates.
The second step do 10 level 50 dungeons from ARR
The third step was to gather the materials where you have a wide variety of possibilities to aquire them

Since the third step in Eureka is the gear +2 (holy shit DnD greets you) you'll do nothing than chaintreak trashmob to spawn NM

And again: they had over a year the possibility to do something new and chose some boring grind

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Then this proves you didn't even read my other replies, and I'm not going to repeat myself just because you refused to read this thread.

I'm glad we found the problem here

Oh no, I read them. They were just coming off as incredibly apologetic to Eureka's design and sounding like a total shill. Given you were disarming all criticism by saying anyone not liking it was "memeing"

[Nariel]

Wowowowowowowo....

Please, for the sake of Eorzea, please don't feed the troll.

Else he's going to annoy you while you're asleep in that boring Eureka place.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Oh also so a helpful person is in here. I've seen a lot of screenshots of the weapons, but anyone know if the gear when maxed out get any kind of glow effects

[Maero]

lol @ the people saying this is innovative.
Not sure how long i spent last night but i was rather tired afterwords

[ChocoFeru]

And this is the thing what disturb me: I'll do nothing else than spawning the NM by chainstreak specific trashmobs. This is a two step grind until I have the gear I want for a specific Job. At level 20 you'll chainstrike level 21-22 trashmobs to spawn a 21-22 NM for sure. There won't be something else. That's it. and all in the same area.

The old HW relic first step was gather 6 crystals from each Heavensward area through Fates.
The second step do 10 level 50 dungeons from ARR
The third step was to gather the materials where you have a wide variety of possibilities to aquire them

Since the third step in Eureka is the gear +2 (holy shit DnD greets you) you'll do nothing than chaintreak trashmob to spawn NM

And again: they had over a year the possibility to do something new and chose some boring grind

I don't know the reason of delaying it so much. Maybe the main problem was that they had to make a whole new big map, new leveling system etc... I bet they had to deal with lots of bugs.

Maybe it depends on what we expect about content. I hate content that makes me do old dungeons/fates, I rather do something on new areas and different mechanics.
If I'm gonna grind anyways, make it new!


I just hope that there's something new at level 20 or on the next Relic steps. Maybe there will be a new map or a level increase, who knows. We have to keep giving constructive feedback I guess.

Oh no, I read them. They were just coming off as incredibly apologetic to Eureka's design and sounding like a total shill. Given you were disarming all criticism by saying anyone not liking it was "memeing"

Then you missed when I said they could add gathering spots, dailies, other quests, other ways to obtain crystals etc... and yeah, some people keep using the "let's hate Eureka and ignore what it brings" meme.

On the other hand, there are others who are bringing different constructive ideas.

You didn't bring anything constructive here, you just wanted the confrontation, knowing I wouldn't get many support on this thread, making things easier for you.

At least not everybody acts like you, there players are bringing up guides, new info and even suggestions here and on Reddit, while haters are just memeing around nice try though, but you shoult try harder next time.