What's your first impression of Eureka?

[ForctyusGold]

Eureka is kinda good but mostly boring. It can kill the time, but rewards not worthy. But what upset me is, that with net connection i cant do fates. I am currenly on 7lvl, but its just madness, mostly when im on healer, i can heal but... Its like Ixion without zone. I dont know if someone have this same experience when everything is lagy, but for me, its unplayable. After all, i just laughing when people dies everywhere around me

[ForctyusGold]

It will be best, when there will be some player list, where you could contact and make a group or something like that.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

It's innovative, but not deep yet. There's room for improvement, and I guess there will be as we level up and on next relic steps.

You have to kill X monsters to pop the NM (FATE), have you even tried Eureka?



What do you mean? Even Raid content uses old monsters, even Expert dungeons uses old monsters with different name/colors.

Also, we have some new monsters on the lvl 18+ zones! You've gotta level up before to fight them, ofcourse.

You are seeming like the world's biggest Eureka apologist. Are you seriously sure you're not getting paid for this?

[Neophyte]

That's a really terrible thing to say about hands hurting. Like, genuinely terrible.

All I'm saying is that if your hands hurt here, your Hands must hurt in pretty much every other content, because the amount of buttons you spam per minute is the same.

The rest of your post just blatantly overlooks the difference between this content (sitting in one spot doing literally the same thing over and over with no downtime or breaks at all) which only really has Diadem 1.0 as a 1:1 comparison to (which not coincidentally had people complaining about the same issue).

Then just take a break.
Am I missing something? You can just pause for 1-2 min after every 30-chain pull for example, so what?
Do people really say that A1s/A9s farm was waaaay better because you had a loading screen now and then which "allowed you to pause a bit"? Lol.

Because of this?

If there's a pause your group is trash.

So, that's true for all the other contents, too.
A1s at all? Your group is trash, bc srsly A9s was way more efficient. A1s with more than 2 heal/tanks combined? Super-trash.
A9s was: Burn faust, when he's about to die move already towards boss, ignore all adds and burn boss before faust add spawns, ignore chests and leave asap, reque asap (no "I need to repair/trade in tokens/tomestones" pls).
If not "your group was trash".

This content is waaaaaaay more "take a short break" friendly than any other grind content. Because it's no problem to say "brb, 2 min" while the other 7 just continue with killing mobs, compared to holding back the whole group because you need to go to the bathroom quick.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

It will be best, when there will be some player list, where you could contact and make a group or something like that.

Oh you mean tools the game already has but for some reason felt like not utilizing in this instance. God I hope those designers were compensated by their effort that they clearly didn't put in

[Kallera]

This is fast becoming diadem 3.0. Do the players tooting their horn about "efficiency" even hearing themselves?

You are spamming fates, and focusing on killing mobs in one spot, again.

Literally dino island.

[Shiroe]

scares me, thinking of grinding for every gear piece in the future xD

[ChocoFeru]

Killing enemies to earn XP isn't innovative. And killing placeholders monster to make a NM spawn is like the root of old MMORPGs (as such it REALLY isn't an innovation), but at the end of the day you're still grinding fates.

What's innovative is how you have to level up. Well, actually is the same FFXI system, but it's innovative in FFXIV.
And yes, you can call it a FATE if you want. Are poppable S Hunts a FATE, too?

What I can't figure out. This game has a matching system/duty finder since the beginning why are we suddenly being thrown into a zone without a group and have no tools in it to find a group besides spamming shout channel?

Like what happened?

You can make a party doing a Partyfinder, or once inside Eureka, you can open the Party tab and you'll see a new tab inside wich shows you the people who's looking for party and their level.

So don't say: "At least we don't have to do old Fates", this is what I mean with "old monsters". At the old relics you could choose which Fate you want to do. May it be a Boss Fate, a Trashmob Fate, a Gather Fate or an Escort Fate, there is at least variety in it.

If you would break down Eureka to Fates, there are two kind of Fates: Trashmob Fates (you have to kill specific lower monsters) and after that the Boss Fate spawns (the NM monster ironically it's a Fate). So where are the other "Fates"?

I see that you are just glad to have just new content, that's ok, but there are people who see that is just one really obviously grind in Eureka without some colorful wrapping paper around it. And after over a year development there is a kind of disappointment.

The problem with old relics is that it felt unnoriginal. They made you do content that you already did before.

In Eureka you start from level 1 aiming to level 20, and yeah, you have to grind to level 20. You can choose to level up grinding mobs or popping NMs (FATEs) and, for now, there's nothing else.

We'll see at level 20, but I still think this is a good start and that SE can improve the next Relic steps. We just need constructive opinions instead of the typical "unsubbing" posts (not blaming you for that).

You are seeming like the world's biggest Eureka apologist. Are you seriously sure you're not getting paid for this?

Are you really going to just reply me with ad-hominem? Why are you uncapable to confront my opinions with an actual argument?

Maybe you just don't have any? It might be that

[Derio]

I wouldnt call this variety. You are literally sitting in one spot gathering mobs, burning them down to spawn NM only to kill it and then start back over and do the same thing.

It's literally botting and exact thing we were doing in Diadem 1.0 and Diadem 2.0

The old relic system had you do fates in the open world and then run dungeons and at least with dungeons there was variety.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Are you really going to just reply me with ad-hominem? Why are you uncapable to confront my opinions with an actual argument?

Maybe you just don't have any? It might be that

Maybe if you can actually provide proper opinions I might actually start caring enough to supply more of an argument.

Also reflect that back onto you. You've basically been ignoring every criticism, constructive or otherwise with the "Stop memeing and get better!" retort