Eureka CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions thread - no negativity

[Mahri]

Make it no longer a Duty.

Grinds can be fine when you break it up. Grinds are terrible when you are forced to focus on it and nothing else.

If we could queue the DF, do all our roulettes and whatnot, while rolling around Eureka, it would not fix all of it's problems, but it would help greatly.

[Lambdafish]

Make it no longer a Duty.

You realise that it being a duty is amazing right? If it wasn't a duty it would just be people from your server and the zone may be dead, it being an instance means that you load into the most full instance across your entire data center

[Fynlar]

You realise that it being a duty is amazing right?

You realize that there's reasons people would disagree with that and the person you quoted outright stated two of them, right?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Add in Hunt style NMS, fill it with repeatable quests, add a party finder, add in battle style leves and add something creative. Also why can't gathering classes be part of this too?

[Lambdafish]

You realize that there's reasons people would disagree with that and the person you quoted outright stated two of them, right?

I should think that having players in the zone that the content is in when said content greatly benefits from group play outweighs those points just a little bit, and that's not even taking into account that the suggestion also requires not only rebuilding the content from scratch, but also implementing new gameplay into the overworld (something that we don't even know is possible with how the game is set up)

[Kohdo]

Eureka Treasure Maps! Please make the setting unique to Eureka though, don't just send us to Uznair via Eureka. Maybe some sort of Mayan-themed temple and cave system hidden underground? Throw in some puzzles to open doors rather than pure RNG. The drops could be Protean Crystals and other unique Eureka loot.

My other recommendations are;
Daily quests (solo and group).
More NM, that can't be zerged down so easily.
FATEs that spawn more regularly.
Fix the experience loss incurred by roving zerg death squads - whichever individual/party attacks the mob first should get the full experience point reward, anyone else that joins in could get a 70% reduction in xp earned.


Eureka's premise itself is good. It just needs more things to do. Right now it's a theme park with only one attraction - you can't expect people to hang around long, even with enticing rewards locked behind it. Take the grind (which isn't inherently a bad thing) and disperse it over the various activities people have listed. It's not too much work that it couldn't be done by 4.3 or 4.35.

[Vhailor]

One other note: this content probably shouldn't be an instance, or at least, doesn't fit very well with existing instance limitations. I'm not entirely clear on whether a good solution exists, but this content is significantly damaged by instance limitations. Consider the following problems:

(a) Friends who log on and want to join your small Eureka party have no easy way to do so; they cannot send you tells, they cannot specify your instance when joining Eureka, they cannot join your party from outside Eureka. The only solution is for them to make their desires known in a linkshell or FC, for you to then leave Eureka, invite them, and then re-enter. That sucks.

(b) Limited socializing; as mentioned above, one cannot send /tells within instances. That's an irritant when doing short pieces of content; it's a PITA when it applies to a grind that people can spend hours at in a single play session.

(c) Inability to queue for other Duties while doing the Eureka grind. This is a huge problem, one that didn't apply to nastier non-dungeon grind stages of the Zodiac or Anima weapons.

The combined effect of these limitations is not insignificant. I'm not sure whether SE considered these factors or not, but the severity of the grind seems to indicate they did not, or didn't care. Again, I'm not sure if there's an easy way to mitigate these issues on SE's end, but at least balance the content properly in light of them.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It designed to mimic Abyssea. The problem though is when FF11 came out. Grind was the way you accomplished everything. You had to grind monsters in a certain zone. Then Grind Ranks to get airship passes and rewards. Then Grind Abyssea for that story and so on.

Eureka is fine. People want quick rewards, not have to work for them.

Let's see...

I can spend hours upon hours spamming my combos until my hand actually hurts to receive a weapon basically on par with i360 tome stuff, provided the secondaries don't suck. Or I can farm Byakko and actually deal with some mechanics and variation compared to literally none? But sure, it's a lack of work problem.

Simply put, the gameplay isn't all that fun. And the rewards don't justify the sheer amount time necessary. Heaven forbid if I wanted multiple relics. Just getting full sets for all my melee costs 8,600 Protean Crystals. We're talking upwards of a thousand hours unless drop rates improve tremendously.

[Fynlar]

I should think that having players in the zone that the content is in when said content greatly benefits from group play outweighs those points just a little bit, and that's not even taking into account that the suggestion also requires not only rebuilding the content from scratch, but also implementing new gameplay into the overworld (something that we don't even know is possible with how the game is set up)

So you're saying that the zone would be dead if it weren't for it being cross-server, yes?

Do you not realize that already says a lot about this content as is?

And do you really think that this content, even cross-server, isn't doomed to go the same way Diadem did anyway, if nothing changes?

[saber_alter]

It's a good start. Barely.

What it needs is Daily and Weekly quests, and they can't all be kill quests or fetch quests. something unique, like pattern recognition or whatnot. hell, i would be fine if they brought Dow/Dom leves into Eureka.

Also FATES other than the NMs would be nice.