Eureka

[Canopia]

This is just trying to keep the system fair and again easy. Stuff that isn't exactly needed in a grind. You don't need to be so hostile about it, this is just a discussion jeez.

not much of a discussion when you are of the mindset "Im right, youre wrong" then you throwing out claims of hostility when their ideas conflict with yours. if anyones hostile, its you and your fervent overzealous need to be right and shut down discussion.

[Soupa]

not much of a discussion when you are of the mindset "Im right, youre wrong" then you throwing out claims of hostility when their ideas conflict with yours. if anyones hostile, its you and your fervent overzealous need to be right and shut down discussion.

Where have I shut down discussion? I encourage everyone to post. I’m simply offering my opinion, my opinion is not absolute.

[Felis]

i expect most people will try to get it as soon as posible, and farm hard for it to get it on less of 1 week

While many will try it, the average will need longer than 1 week. Don't underestimate the not (yet) nerfed relic grind.

[FallenArisen0990]

So Eureka is basically a nicer version of XI? The penalties aren't nearly as harsh as it was in XI. At least I can finally shout," Gobs to Zone!"

Scorpion Harness confirmed!

[Suetan124]

The issue is when it comes to rare drops from NMs it stops becoming "working for it" and quickly becomes "sacrifice a lalafell and pray you get your drop". I don't mind a NM being difficult to defeat for a drop but I hate low drop rates.

Sacrifice a lala?! I'm game for that... come here Lolorito

[Joe777]

I wonder why it is that every time they try to implement something similar to the way XI was, people immediately hate that theres RNG and mob grinding.

I blame the modern generation of MMOs. Compared to old school it's far less effort required to get to the top. Eureka feels like homage to that, and I for one appreciate it.

Despite this, I feel SE will probably reduce crystal costs and stuff eventually due to mass complaints about how long it takes.

P.S. RNG honestly doesn't feel that bad to me, even at low levels. Could do without the prisms from lockboxes though...

[Vahlnir]

I blame the modern generation of MMOs. Compared to old school it's far less effort required to get to the top. Eureka feels like homage to that, and I for one appreciate it.

Despite this, I feel SE will probably reduce crystal costs and stuff eventually due to mass complaints about how long it takes.

P.S. RNG honestly doesn't feel that bad to me, even at low levels. Could do without the prisms from lockboxes though...

I don't really mind the RNG crystals too much since they'll supposedly drop much more (possibly 100%?) at lvl 20. My problem has to do with the leveling system. The exp gains are very, very, VERY low. I don't mind leveling, or that leveling takes time. But...there's a difference between taking awhile and straight up insanity. This is the latter, not the former. Though, if people (myself included) weren't punished for helping out other groups or people, that might solve a good bit of it. If they want us to grind mobs, I think we should at least be able to have some fun with it. Let people work together for a common goal, whether it's 8 people or 32.

[Joe777]

I don't really mind the RNG crystals too much since they'll supposedly drop much more (possibly 100%?) at lvl 20. My problem has to do with the leveling system. The exp gains are very, very, VERY low. I don't mind leveling, or that leveling takes time. But...there's a difference between taking awhile and straight up insanity. This is the latter, not the former. Though, if people (myself included) weren't punished for helping out other groups or people, that might solve a good bit of it. If they want us to grind mobs, I think we should at least be able to have some fun with it. Let people work together for a common goal, whether it's 8 people or 32.

Honestly I find grinding with just a group of 8 in 1 spot is fine. So many groups out there right now that it can be a bit tough to find a spot not taken already. Now if I'm playing as a healer and come across someone dead I'll revive them, or if someone is running away from a mob and I'm with a group we could grab it, but otherwise it's mainly just find fresh meat with your group and let other groups do the same without collision. NMs on the other hand... Hoo boy the lag XD